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TV Tuesdays Free Talk

Have you watched any TV shows recently you want to discuss? Any shows you want to recommend or are hyped about? Feel free to discuss anything here.

Please just try to provide fair warning of spoilers if you can.

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    kwyjibo
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    TV's been insanely good this year. I used to watch at least 200-250 films a year (my peak was 386 back in 2018) but so far this year I've only watched 19 because of how little time I have left...
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    TV's been insanely good this year. I used to watch at least 200-250 films a year (my peak was 386 back in 2018) but so far this year I've only watched 19 because of how little time I have left from watching TV shows. I assume this trend will continue for me, especially considering the shows coming up in the pipeline.

    So far this year, I loved:

    • Atlanta: Best show in TV. I might append ever to that last sentence after its final season this year. They have no right to be that good and that different in every single episode.
    • Better Call Saul: Amazing show. Although I do think it's having its worst season so far. Its worst season is by far and beyond better than any average TV show, and I'm excited to see how they'll end it.
    • Barry*: As a (or a has been!) film buff, this show separates itself in terms of direction. You can find influences of important films and directors in almost every episode and it's very clear how meticulous Bill Hader is. There aren't any overt nods to Kubrick in these series, but the show have a sense of preciseness to it that really remind me of him.
    • Severance: I didn't love this at the beginning but I really like Ben Stiller the director/creator and some of the actors, mainly Adam Scott and Britt Lower (from another great series called Man Seeking Woman)
    • Slow Horses: This is like a more crude version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. It had its ups and downs, but overall it's very good.
    • Somebody Somewhere: Absolutely loved every second of this. Some might find its story hackneyed, but if you love small stakes, bittersweet, heartwarming dramas, watch this.
    • Succession: Funniest show I've ever watched after The Veep. Hard to find any fault in it.
    • The Staircase*: The shows creator, Antonio Campos, directed one of my favorite films. That was enough to make me watch this, but the amazing cast was the cherry on top. I don't think the writing matches either the direction or the acting but given that it's a true story, I think they're doing an pretty good job in their limited space.
    • Tokyo Vice*: Ken Watanabe, Tokyo, noir/crime.
    • The Dropout / WeCrashed: I grouped these two because they're pretty similar in their story lines. I think The Dropout was significantly better than WeCrashed, but I find value in watching both of them. The Dropout was a great character study both of Holmes and how crooked incentives of unfettered capitalism can affect society at large, whereas WeCrashed was a show that I loved to hate watch. Not because of the show itself but because how irredeemable almost every character in it was. If you have tech bros and the culture around it, you'll have a good time watching this.
    • We Own This City*: I've yet to watch The Wire so I can't proclaim like all of the 20 people who watched both about how WotC is the successor to the Wire, but as a standalone show, I cannot recommend this enough. As someone whose not a native speaker, I initially had to rewind a few scenes to fully understand what was being said (the script is very authentic, so characters often used abbreviations that I had not heard before) but once I got used to its dialogue and rhythm, it was an amazing ride. I went into it only knowing David Simon's involvement, so I was shocked when I found out that it was actually a true story.

    * Shows that are still on the air or whose episodes I watched as recently as last week.

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      culturedleftfoot
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      I was late to Atlanta but I became quite a fan after the first two seasons, especially being able to watch it with my girlfriend at the time and point out all the different cultural references and...

      I was late to Atlanta but I became quite a fan after the first two seasons, especially being able to watch it with my girlfriend at the time and point out all the different cultural references and then-current news stories it weaved in, touched on, and spoofed. For me, part of its brilliance was the way it placed quasi-absurd situations into the narrative that were examples of real life being stranger than fiction, the fact that the commentary was often right before your eyes rather than being shoved down your throat. I came away from this third season with more of the latter feeling than the former. Maybe it was a conscious decision to make things more explicit, or maybe my reaction is akin to someone lamenting their favorite band becoming too popular. I don't know. The impact possibly depends on what background you are coming into the show with. I appreciate the way they aimed for a broader perspective, but it didn't seem as poignant to me. Still looking out for the next season though.

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      1. kwyjibo
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        I do agree with your criticism and it's well put. The recent season was certainly more didactic in its storytelling. I normally hate it when shows or films spoon-feed me their narrative but as you...

        I do agree with your criticism and it's well put. The recent season was certainly more didactic in its storytelling. I normally hate it when shows or films spoon-feed me their narrative but as you implied, the reason why it felt that way at times was because they tried to deal with too much at the same time and when you have a limited amount of runtime, you have to make some things overt to get your points across quickly. This was especially the case for the standalone episodes.

        However, while I do agree with your criticism, I don't think this issue was prevalent. Although maybe this is my own ignorance coming through. I'd like to think I'm somewhat informed about the culture in the US, but I'm also an outsider who've never lived there. I can only inform myself about the daily experiences people have in places I've never lived through various mediums and that's never enough to understand the hard issues the show has examined both subtly and overtly. Perhaps the reason why the latter way didn't bother me as much is because I'm not exposed to these dynamics on a regular basis.

        I also appreciated it that the recent season sparked so many thoughtful conversations. I have a sociology degree but I never got to work in that field, so whenever there's a conversation around things that are systematic, it interests me. Especially when those conversations are led by people who have lived experiences. It makes me feel like I'm doing field work. It exposes me to things I'd normally never have a chance to be exposed to. If it weren't for this, maybe the didacticism would've bothered me more, I don't know.

        (Spoilers) One thing that really did bother me about though... ...was how underutilized Van was this season. Granted, the same can be said for literally everyone on the main cast (which was a common criticism that I do understand but not share), but I love Van's character and considering the final episode of the season was about the end point of her arc, it bothered me that they got to _that_ place _that_ fast. As much as I liked the episode for how crazy it was and how touching Van's monologue was in a vacuum, I wish they had earned that moment a bit more.

        But maybe I'm being a petulant consumer for demanding more of what I like, I don't know. One thing people, myself included, often overlook in these types of work is that real people work in them and sometimes schedules just don't work out and people have to work with what they have.

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