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  1. Comment on Vegetarian protein is just as 'complete' as meat, despite what we've been taught in ~health

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    Brain gains came from us eating more Fat. Things like bone marrow, brain tissue, etc... Cooking meat actually lowers some of the water soluble vitamin content. However, cooking vegetables actually...

    Brain gains came from us eating more Fat. Things like bone marrow, brain tissue, etc... Cooking meat actually lowers some of the water soluble vitamin content. However, cooking vegetables actually makes them more palatable, lessens the amounts of antinutrients that are in them, particularly the skin. Cooking can also make the nutrients in plant food more bioavailable, but still not even close to animal food.

    http://mammoth.psu.edu/society.html

    given the enormous amount of meat coming from a 6 to 8 ton animal, which would have fed 400 people for several weeks.

    So anywhere from 1-3 months.

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  2. Comment on Vegetarian protein is just as 'complete' as meat, despite what we've been taught in ~health

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    The source comes from actual history, and not some vegan propoganda. The author of that book misrepresents data, and uses Epidemiological studies as if they are facts, when those types of studies...

    The source comes from actual history, and not some vegan propoganda. The author of that book misrepresents data, and uses Epidemiological studies as if they are facts, when those types of studies are only meant to narrow a hypothesis for further study.

    Before agriculture, it was literally impossible for people to be plant based.

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  3. Comment on Vegetarian protein is just as 'complete' as meat, despite what we've been taught in ~health

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    The Standard American Diet is 60-70% plant based. People actually ate more animal products before the 20th Century. Because meat/dairy is the most nutrient dense foods you can eat. They're also...

    The Standard American Diet is 60-70% plant based. People actually ate more animal products before the 20th Century.

    If eating meat all the time is/was the norm then how did our ancestors survive all these millennia, before we produced cheaply available meat round the year at a massive scale?

    Because meat/dairy is the most nutrient dense foods you can eat. They're also the healthiest. It's literally how humans evolved so quickly over other animals. The Fat content, and Fat soluble vitamins fuelled our intelligence increase.

    A single Wooly Mammoth could feed 400 people for months. It would literally be impossible to forage that many calories/nutrients from plant foods.

    Your comment is ironic, because the super high consumption of plant foods would be impossible without the agricultural technology that we have.

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  4. Comment on Vegetarian protein is just as 'complete' as meat, despite what we've been taught in ~health

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    This is really poor logic. Cows (and all ruminants) have specialised digestive systems that actually convert nutrients they eat, into nutrients that we eat. This is true, but it's also begging the...

    So if cows eat plants, and plants provide cows with all the nutrients they need, why would we assume steak is a more complete protein than the food that provides the steak with its nutrients? The answer: We shouldn’t.

    This is really poor logic. Cows (and all ruminants) have specialised digestive systems that actually convert nutrients they eat, into nutrients that we eat.

    “It turns out our body is not stupid,” Greger explains. “It maintains pools of free amino acids that can be used to do all the complementing for us. Not to mention the massive protein recycling program our body has. Some 90 grams of protein is dumped into the digestive tract every day from our own body to get broken back down and reassembled, so our body can mix and match amino acids to whatever proportions we need, whatever we eat.”

    This is true, but it's also begging the question about sustainability. If you stuck with a complete Protein source that was low in something, wouldn't you eventually become deficient in it? Those pools of free amino acids aren't infinite.

    Also their calculation for required Protein is just to not end up deficient... That's hardly a proper metric for optimal health. A lot of the article is misleading, and heavily biased.

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  5. Comment on Vegetarian protein is just as 'complete' as meat, despite what we've been taught in ~health

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    Bioavailability matters. Animal Protein is way more digestible, and more easily utilised by the body. However, Protein Powders (including Vegan) are more bioavailable than even regular...

    Bioavailability matters.

    Animal Protein is way more digestible, and more easily utilised by the body. However, Protein Powders (including Vegan) are more bioavailable than even regular meat/egg/dairy. But with those Powders, you don't get the same nutritional density, and it's a more processed product.

    Being a "complete" Protein isn't the only thing that matters. The ratios of certain Amino Acids also matter, and animal Protein is just better in that regard.

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