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  1. Comment on Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation won't increase US President Donald Trump's ability to pardon people because of an obscure double jeopardy case in ~society

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    No it's not. You could say that it's "Yes, if that person also committed separate state charges." But saying Yes is flat-out wrong, and it shows you're not understanding the argument. P.S. You...

    No it's not. You could say that it's "Yes, if that person also committed separate state charges."

    But saying Yes is flat-out wrong, and it shows you're not understanding the argument.

    P.S. You can't dodge behind the article when I'm using that article to make my arguments.

  2. Comment on Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation won't increase US President Donald Trump's ability to pardon people because of an obscure double jeopardy case in ~society

    Tarsupin
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    For further clarification, what he's saying here is: "Well, since not all the laws they broke are federal, Trump couldn't pardon the ones that are at the state level." Yeah, great. Not the point...

    For further clarification, what he's saying here is: "Well, since not all the laws they broke are federal, Trump couldn't pardon the ones that are at the state level."

    Yeah, great. Not the point at all. And not what is remotely of concern. So Trump can't pardon someone for tax violations within the state. But if these criminals are facing charges that are federal, but which could also be taken to state, then that MASSIVELY increases Trump's pardon power.

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  3. Comment on Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation won't increase US President Donald Trump's ability to pardon people because of an obscure double jeopardy case in ~society

    Tarsupin
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    I don't believe you actually took the time to look at my counter-point, because I boiled it down to two simple yes and no's that could be easily addressed. But, sure, I'll respond. Again, right...

    I don't believe you actually took the time to look at my counter-point, because I boiled it down to two simple yes and no's that could be easily addressed. But, sure, I'll respond.

    So: even if Kavanaugh helps overturn the Dual Sovereignty Doctrine, Trump cannot insulate his underlings with pardons — particularly because many of them face uniquely state-law issues, like state tax violations or violations of other state laws.

    Again, right here in his own language, "many of them." He couldn't even say the same thing about the actual individual laws, just the people themselves. That's cherry-picked and has absolutely no strength to support the original title, nor the implied context of the article. He's saying something entirely different than the point he's trying to argue against.

    Respond to the two yes/no's that I asked.

  4. Comment on Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation won't increase US President Donald Trump's ability to pardon people because of an obscure double jeopardy case in ~society

    Tarsupin
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    The title of this article is "Kavanaugh's confirmation won't increase Trump's ability to pardon people", and then he describes that his pardon will prevent those affected from having to face trial...

    Yes, and the entire purpose of the article is explaining why that's not really a significant issue.

    The title of this article is "Kavanaugh's confirmation won't increase Trump's ability to pardon people", and then he describes that his pardon will prevent those affected from having to face trial at a state level. That is the exact definition of increasing his pardon power.

    If a criminal has to face state trial regardless of a pardon, that pardon becomes far less meaningful; because now the criminal has accepted guilt (which is part of a pardon).

    So, which part of his contradiction am I supposed to be considering him authoritative on?

  5. Comment on Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation won't increase US President Donald Trump's ability to pardon people because of an obscure double jeopardy case in ~society

    Tarsupin
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    And he also just flatly stated the reason it's a problem. Like, he's using the words that I would use to describe the issue. I have two questions. Under the current law, would {Criminal} have to...

    And he also just flatly stated the reason it's a problem. Like, he's using the words that I would use to describe the issue.

    I have two questions.

    1. Under the current law, would {Criminal} have to face state charges, even after Trump's pardon? (Answer: Yes)

    2. After this law, would {Criminal} have to face state charges, even after Trump's pardon? (Answer, according to this lawyer: No)

    Unless I am wrong on either of those two statements, that outlines the exact problem. It would mean that Trump can pardon Manafort/Cohen/His Family/Whomever and they're off the hook for state charges.

    So which part am I wrong about?

  6. Comment on Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation won't increase US President Donald Trump's ability to pardon people because of an obscure double jeopardy case in ~society

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    This is exactly the problem, and why everyone is concerned. If Trump can pardon a federal crime, and as a direct result those people don't have to face state prosecution, they are free of all...

    Tump's pardon would only prevent state prosecution for the same crime that Trump pardoned them for federally.

    This is exactly the problem, and why everyone is concerned. If Trump can pardon a federal crime, and as a direct result those people don't have to face state prosecution, they are free of all charges.

    That is LITERALLY the problem. Like, what doesn't this author understand, exactly?

    Right now, if Trump pardons someone, they can still be tried at the state level. That is the ONLY defense we have right now against his pardon power.

    If you take away the state's ability to enforce the law after that point, Trump can absolutely abuse the pardon to free his criminal allies.

  7. Comment on I think Tildes should remain invite-only in ~tildes

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    Tildes is a site like Reddit, so a very, very large number of people are interested. Starting up a site is insanely difficult in terms of getting people to join. Having 8k users means that Tildes...

    I don't really know many other people interested in a site like Tildes.

    Tildes is a site like Reddit, so a very, very large number of people are interested.

    Starting up a site is insanely difficult in terms of getting people to join. Having 8k users means that Tildes has bridged a very, VERY large hurdle. Once they hit about 50-100k, the momentum should kick in a lot harder.

    I perceive this as a much smaller issue in the long term.

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  8. Comment on I think Tildes should remain invite-only in ~tildes

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    Okay, one thing to consider here is that if this site is being built to avoid propaganda, making certain data visible is how you can achieve that. There are two reasons that Reddit is filled with...

    I'm not going to mine data, and I'm actually even trying to find ways to delete or hide data as much as possible so that it's not even a possibility.

    Okay, one thing to consider here is that if this site is being built to avoid propaganda, making certain data visible is how you can achieve that.

    There are two reasons that Reddit is filled with trash. The first is that they don't care enough to truly enforce it, or at least aren't willing to invoke the changes necessary to take a large step in that direction. The second is that it is damn near impossible to identify trolls without certain information being made public.

    The fact is, everything we post on this site is 100% public, so putting it into categories that would allow sensible meta-data to be extracted could help independent researchers point out who/what is causing any instances of propaganda that fit into the system.

    1 vote

  9. Comment on General Tildes feedback, questions, and so on in ~tildes.official

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    Is there a link to details about the trust system? I read the mechanics, but that didn't seem to discuss it as far as I could tell. The entire reason I joined Tildes is because I've been waiting...

    Is there a link to details about the trust system? I read the mechanics, but that didn't seem to discuss it as far as I could tell. The entire reason I joined Tildes is because I've been waiting for a Reddit clone to do this.

    As far as suggestions go, I have two of importance:

    1. Please keep the invite-only, or at the very least keep a "vouch" option for users, so that people are linked to each other for the purposes of trust. If the site becomes popular, propagandists will come. And it will be nigh-impossible for them to maintain a network of untrustworthy people if their trustworthiness drops, and as a result the other people they vouched for lose voting power.

    2. There really needs to be a Fact-Checking option, or something that can clearly be marked as non-factual, or citations needed, and the post/comment should be appropriately adjusted based on this. Because a lot of trusted people DO fact-check, and their efforts should be reflected by that.

    7 votes