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  1. Comment on Toxic masculinity: Helping men understand the impact of their behaviour in ~life.men

    WheresMyWallet
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    Ok, here's a better hypothetical - a mustard sandwich being a shitty sandwich. "That looks like a mustard sandwich" ... "The onus is blah..." If I get this popular enough and get my buddy to write...

    Ok, here's a better hypothetical - a mustard sandwich being a shitty sandwich. "That looks like a mustard sandwich" ... "The onus is blah..." If I get this popular enough and get my buddy to write a few articles about it, will it be ok? Even if those articles are only read by a very niche community?

    I believe the conceit here is that people are upset that it's associated with masculinity instead of being gender neutral.

    So if they are upset with the word, why not change it? Why not have a single gender neutral term?

    And I'm pretty sure the problem with terminology for the mentally challenged was that it was dehumanizing

    Wow... You don't say... Its almost like the issue was that people felt the term was dehumanizing... in both circumstances.

    Either way, its just a word, one which obviously has a lot of people not happy with it. Why not change it into something nicer or more politically correct? We have done it countless times, and this time it is entirely beneficial - it supports the cause by getting the general public to listen, and doesn't dehumanize or make anyone upset.

    How much harm does changing a word do? We have done it so many times; football teams were told that their names were insulting to some cultures and should change their name. Why not a term that is practically unheard of outside of niche groups?

    4 votes
  2. Comment on Toxic masculinity: Helping men understand the impact of their behaviour in ~life.men

    WheresMyWallet
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    It needs to get a significant enough following first, and even than we might have better terms for it. I could clearly define "shitty human" to be a nice and lovable person, but it might be might...

    It needs to get a significant enough following first, and even than we might have better terms for it. I could clearly define "shitty human" to be a nice and lovable person, but it might be might still be a shitty term to use if most people are not aware of the definition. Saying "The onus isn't on the term to change, ..." dismisses the entire issues.

    The field is the same - language. I used psychopaths as an example, and it has been clearly defined, many times, I suggest you look at the PCL-R. Psychopathy as defined in PCL-R is different from ASPD;

    Hare takes the stance that psychopathy as a syndrome should be considered distinct from the DSM-IV's antisocial personality disorder construct,[4] although the DSM states ASPD has been referred to as or includes the disorder of psychopathy. However, those who created the DSM-IV felt that there was too much room for subjectivity on the part of clinicians when identifying things like remorse and guilt; therefore, the DSM-IV panel decided to stick to observable behavior, namely socially deviant behaviors.

    As a result, the diagnosis of ASPD is something that the "majority of criminals easily meet". Hare goes further to say that the percentage of incarcerated criminals that meet the requirements of ASPD is somewhere between 80 and 85 percent, whereas only about 20% of these criminals would qualify for a psychopathy diagnosis using the PCL-R. This twenty percent, according to Hare, accounts for 50 percent of all the most serious crimes committed, including half of all serial and repeat rapists.[citation needed]

    Although the diagnosis of ASPD covers two to three times as many prisoners than the diagnosis of psychopathy, Hare believes the PCL-R is better able to predict future criminality, violence, and recidivism than a diagnosis of ASPD. He suggests there are differences between PCL-R-diagnosed psychopaths and non-psychopaths on "processing and use of linguistic and emotional information", while such differences are potentially smaller between those diagnosed with ASPD and without. Additionally, Hare argued confusion regarding how to diagnose ASPD, confusion regarding the difference between ASPD and psychopathy, as well as the differing future prognoses regarding recidivism and treatability, may have serious consequences in settings such as court cases where psychopathy is often seen as aggravating the crime.

    My point is just that many terms have been re-defined in the past, especially because some group of people felt it was offensive, term got outdated, or even because it fell out of popularity.

    1910, the Association of Medical Officers of American Institutions for Idiotic and Feeble-Minded Persons adopted three classifications of people we know today as intellectually disabled, as defined by ... IQ test. “Morons” were the most intelligent — they had IQs between 50 and 70. “Imbeciles” with IQs between 25 and 50 were the second level. Those below 25 would remain “
    idiots.”

    In 1987, the group changed its name. Years of the use of “idiot,” “moron,” and “imbecile” as common insults had already inspired a few name changes; this time, the organization went with a progressive, respectful new term that had been introduced in the 1960s, becoming the American Association on Mental Retardation.

    "Here stands the status of the term “mental retardation” in 2015: Use it wrong, as an insult, and you’re out of line. But use it to refer to someone like my daughter who was diagnosed with what was once officially called mental retardation, as a statement of fact rather than an insult, and you’re still out of line. It’s now considered insulting to use the term the way it used to be used correctly."

    https://medium.com/s/story/the-rise-and-fall-of-mentally-retarded-e3b9eea23018

    5 votes
  3. Comment on Toxic masculinity: Helping men understand the impact of their behaviour in ~life.men

    WheresMyWallet
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    To some extent, sure, but I think a new name would be very beneficial. We currently don't even recognize sociopaths/psychopaths as a real thing - the closest thing we have is Anti Social...

    To some extent, sure, but I think a new name would be very beneficial.

    We currently don't even recognize sociopaths/psychopaths as a real thing - the closest thing we have is Anti Social Personality Disorder, under DSM4/5(?). Why not have a professional name free from confusion?

    3 votes
  4. Comment on Toxic masculinity: Helping men understand the impact of their behaviour in ~life.men

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    I think the issue is the word itself - Its like if we used 'feminine bitchiness' and defined it as an actual thing - say a real medical condition like BPD or cancer. I could argue that "feminine...

    I think the issue is the word itself - Its like if we used 'feminine bitchiness' and defined it as an actual thing - say a real medical condition like BPD or cancer.

    I could argue that "feminine bitchiness != a bitchy female", but as soon as I say "Ohh, you've got feminine bitchiness" to someone with BPD or cancer, they might find the term... insulting, despite it having an actual definition.

    Its a shitty name, in both cases.

    9 votes
  5. Comment on Society relies so heavily on plastic bags that it’s easy to forget they haven’t always been here. Initially, they got a poor reception. in ~life

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    The issue is that the huge plastic bags crush everything at the bottom, often are wayyy too big for what I need, and end up hitting my ankles as I am walking. They might be tougher and larger, but...

    The issue is that the huge plastic bags crush everything at the bottom, often are wayyy too big for what I need, and end up hitting my ankles as I am walking.

    They might be tougher and larger, but they use more plastic than 20 of the old small plastic bags. Before I could take a small plastic bag if I needed one, and now I feel like an idiot using a huge plastic bag for a packet of chips and a drink, or some small shopping. Before I would reuse the bags as they were reasonable sized, the new ones go right in the trash.

    These bags would have been a great addition to the cloth bags, but as a replacement, I am not a fan. Personally I have wasted easily 100 times more plastic than I would have before.