20 votes

thank u, next

Tags: rust, mozilla

6 comments

  1. [4]
    ainar-g
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    These bits really bother me: This doesn't sound like a healthy work environment.

    These bits really bother me:

    (…) Rust has been growing, we’re doing great things. I love my team. But every time that this means interacting with Mozilla more broadly, I end up being frustrated. I could say a lot of things here, but I won’t get into the details. What’s really important is this: I’m not proud to be a Mozillian anymore. A variety of incidents contributed to this, but at the end of the day, it’s what’s true. Furthermore, I don’t have any personal opportunity at Mozilla; I recently discovered I’m the lowest-paid person on my team, and Mozilla doesn’t pay particularly well in the first place. (…) I don’t believe that has any chance of changing; when I’ve tried to express my frustrations, I’ve only gotten disciplined. Mozilla is not interested in hearing what I have to say.

    This doesn't sound like a healthy work environment.

    13 votes
    1. [3]
      rkcr
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      Remember, this is just one person's perspective. When a story sounds too awful to be true (e.g. "when I’ve tried to express my frustrations, I’ve only gotten disciplined") I take it with a grain...

      Remember, this is just one person's perspective. When a story sounds too awful to be true (e.g. "when I’ve tried to express my frustrations, I’ve only gotten disciplined") I take it with a grain of salt, because it could be that the way the person is expressing frustration is by, say, blowing up in someone's face.

      15 votes
      1. Emerald_Knight
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        This was my thought as well. I don't want to throw around a baseless accusation, of course, but a statement like "I tried to expression my frustrations" should throw up some red flags and warrant...

        This was my thought as well. I don't want to throw around a baseless accusation, of course, but a statement like "I tried to expression my frustrations" should throw up some red flags and warrant some skepticism. It's worth making note of the complaint in case there are others to corroborate it, but if it's the only one floating around, then honestly it's hard to give it too much weight.

        8 votes
      2. dblohm7
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        Yes, there is only so much we can discern from one person's point of view. In my experience, each party in a disagreement has their own point of view on what happened, and the truth stands apart...

        Yes, there is only so much we can discern from one person's point of view. In my experience, each party in a disagreement has their own point of view on what happened, and the truth stands apart from that. Given that we are all on the outside of whatever these disagreements are, we can only speculate.

        In my recent personal experience as a Mozilla employee, I have had to voice some (pretty serious) concerns and disagreements, but I have never felt that I was being "disciplined" for doing so. In fact, their only criticism of me was that I didn't voice them sooner.

        Note that obviously I'm not trying to discredit Steve, I'm just saying that his experience is not universal.

        7 votes
  2. rkcr
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    The first half seems a bit incongruous with the second half. I totally agree with the first half - that one can be best suited for particular-sized companies, and that's a good reason to move on....

    The first half seems a bit incongruous with the second half. I totally agree with the first half - that one can be best suited for particular-sized companies, and that's a good reason to move on. But then his cited reason for moving on has nothing to do with that, and instead are just issues he has with Mozilla as a company.

    9 votes
  3. doug3465
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    Great title /s

    Great title
    /s

    2 votes