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New York State is about to pass its own Green New Deal

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    alyaza
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    this seems to be a pretty significant bill, especially given the... less than admirable tendencies of the new york democratic party on some issues because of its more moderate members:

    this seems to be a pretty significant bill, especially given the... less than admirable tendencies of the new york democratic party on some issues because of its more moderate members:

    The bill sets an ambitious target for greenhouse gas emissions in New York: Under the current version, New York will have to reduce its emissions by 85% by 2050 from 1990 levels. The remaining 15% of emissions will have to be offset or captured.
    Under the current version of the bill, 70% of the state’s energy production will have to come from renewable sources by 2030. By 2040, the entire state’s energy production will have to be carbon free. That’s five years earlier than California’s current goal of producing all carbon-free energy by 2045.

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    1. Amarok
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      Color me a bit skeptical, but happy. NY is charging headlong towards more wind and solar in the near future, so this isn't exactly a new direction, just a ramping up of successful pilot projects.

      Color me a bit skeptical, but happy. NY is charging headlong towards more wind and solar in the near future, so this isn't exactly a new direction, just a ramping up of successful pilot projects.

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    Somebody
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    That just proves that this is going to do nothing to seriously combat climate change. The "green new deal" has been rejected repeatedly because it's bad legislation. This isn't about saving the...

    Under the current version, New York will have to reduce its emissions by 85% by 2050 from 1990 levels.

    That just proves that this is going to do nothing to seriously combat climate change. The "green new deal" has been rejected repeatedly because it's bad legislation. This isn't about saving the environment. It's about generating revenue.

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      alyaza
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      ??? reducing the emissions which are what drives climate change in the first place isn't going to seriously combat climate change? come again?

      That just proves that this is going to do nothing to seriously combat climate change.

      ???

      reducing the emissions which are what drives climate change in the first place isn't going to seriously combat climate change? come again?

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        Somebody
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        If we want to get serious then we need to get emissions down immediately, drastically, and seriously. I'm talking about next to nil. Any legislation talking about goals with time-frames set...

        If we want to get serious then we need to get emissions down immediately, drastically, and seriously. I'm talking about next to nil. Any legislation talking about goals with time-frames set decades out is just bologna, and this isn't even seeking to really curb emissions; just get them down to 1990 levels. This is feel good legislation.

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        1. spctrvl
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          Down to fifteen percent of 1990 levels, with the remainder to be captured or offset. That's full carbon neutrality for the 12^th largest economy in the world, in 30 years, with a full...

          Any legislation talking about goals with time-frames set decades out is just bologna, and this isn't even seeking to really curb emissions; just get them down to 1990 levels

          Down to fifteen percent of 1990 levels, with the remainder to be captured or offset. That's full carbon neutrality for the 12^th largest economy in the world, in 30 years, with a full decarbonization of the electrical grid in just 20. Maybe not the most ambitious plan I've ever heard, but more than feel good legislation I think.

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