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  1. Comment on What would a climate crisis doomday bunker need in ~talk

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    It's trivial to farm indoors using LEDs and modern vertical farming techniques. It's all the rage right now but certainly not without some kinks in profitability. You'll outproduce above ground...

    It's trivial to farm indoors using LEDs and modern vertical farming techniques. It's all the rage right now but certainly not without some kinks in profitability. You'll outproduce above ground farms handily even in ideal growing conditions and farm year round without caring what's going on with the outside climate. If there's nuclear fallout that might be the best solution, since anything grown above ground is going to have radioactive contamination and you don't want to eat that. Seems like the excavation of so much underground area just for farming would be expensive, though. There's also a steeper power requirement running those systems all the time, so you're going to have higher energy costs.

    Something has to exist above ground - solar panels, windmills, whatever is powering your bunker. The ideal solution for long term high energy would be portable nuclear reactors, but we haven't finished designing those yet. With the farming and nuclear power one could have a completely underground bunker that shows no evidence it's there.

    I've heard of people buying and converting old missile silos for this stuff. Seems like a fun project if you've got money to burn.

    2 votes
  2. Comment on Coil, Mozilla, and Creative Commons have launched Grant for the Web, a $100 million fund to invest in reshaping the economics of the web in ~tech

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    Seems like Tildes checks every box for a grant already. ;)

    Seems like Tildes checks every box for a grant already. ;)

    3 votes
  3. Comment on What’s the status on anonymous comments? in ~tildes

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    Abuse shouldn't be a serious issue, since admins can still see who is who until the data is wiped at 30 days or whatever threshold. If no one noticed the abuse by then, it's hard to see how it's a...

    Abuse shouldn't be a serious issue, since admins can still see who is who until the data is wiped at 30 days or whatever threshold. If no one noticed the abuse by then, it's hard to see how it's a problem. Any abuse detection code can see who is posting since it's operating at the admin level. Simple triggers like racial slurs can be effective red flags.

    We should be so lucky that the spammers and trolls would assume they can use the anon feature to get away with being asshats. Just makes them easy to find and ban. It's likely to require earning some level of trust to be able to post anonymously - even if that's just something simple like a mandatory waiting period (such as we use for labels) or some low level of participation. That'll give new users time to settle in before tempting them with anonymity.

    4 votes
  4. Comment on Democratic Debate #3 - Sept 12 2019 in ~news

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    Perhaps a corporate memo full of acceptable television talking points. :P

    Perhaps a corporate memo full of acceptable television talking points. :P

    6 votes
  5. Comment on Unofficial Weekly Discussion #4 - What is your most "thinking outside the box", "pie in the sky", and/or "out there" idea for Tildes? in ~tildes

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    That's an interesting idea - inventing mechanisms that allow for a different kind of conversation flow. Right now, editing your original comment is the only way to do this, but it doesn't ping all...

    That's an interesting idea - inventing mechanisms that allow for a different kind of conversation flow. Right now, editing your original comment is the only way to do this, but it doesn't ping all the folks that replied to it. The original comment is a one-to-many broadcast, but the replies can only be dealt with on a one-to-one basis afterwards.

    I think this would go well with more editing nuance, too. Right now all we know is that someone edited their post, but not what unless they spell it out with an edit: blurb, and even then we're relying on them to be honest about what they edited, there's no way to check. Perhaps there could be some kind of 'append' option that doesn't edit the existing post. Instead it just tosses a new comment at the end of the existing comment with a timestamp, probably after a line break like this one.


    Then we could have more of a continuing conversation, if that append option had some way to notify the people who replied to it. This still seems a bit messy, though. I can imagine it making the conversation a bit hard to follow if the thread is old/large/busy. Seems like we'd need to improve the presentation layer to match the changes to the conversation flow somehow.

    2 votes
  6. Comment on Democratic Debate #3 - Sept 12 2019 in ~news

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    Oof. Joe really took that one in the teeth.

    Oof. Joe really took that one in the teeth.

    4 votes
  7. Comment on Democratic Debate #3 - Sept 12 2019 in ~news

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    He said in prior podcasts that he actually checked with the FEC and DNC before offering his first dividends in Iowa and New Hampshire. They gave his staff a green light, the official word from the...

    He said in prior podcasts that he actually checked with the FEC and DNC before offering his first dividends in Iowa and New Hampshire. They gave his staff a green light, the official word from the FEC was that it was 'an act of philanthropy.'

    7 votes
  8. Comment on Democratic Debate #3 - Sept 12 2019 in ~news

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    Ba dum tiss. I wonder how many times the pundits will make that joke tomorrow. :P

    Ba dum tiss.

    I wonder how many times the pundits will make that joke tomorrow. :P

    2 votes
  9. Comment on Democratic Debate #3 - Sept 12 2019 in ~news

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    I signed up because I don't mind being on his campaign mailing list. The signup process is so overloaded right now it simply isn't working, so I'd say he definitely got some slashdot effect action...

    I signed up because I don't mind being on his campaign mailing list. The signup process is so overloaded right now it simply isn't working, so I'd say he definitely got some slashdot effect action going on with that announcement. It's just sitting there at 'signing you up' indefinitely in virgin chrome, with that silly animated yang cartoon jumping up and down.

    As usual I'm falling asleep here listening to the usual non-answers being presented in such short, uninformed sound bites. I really, really hate how our parties conduct debates. High school debate clubs do a superior job. sigh

    WTF is up with Bernie's voice tonight? He sounds really ragged. Get the man some tea with honey already.

    5 votes
  10. Comment on Unofficial Weekly Discussion #4 - What is your most "thinking outside the box", "pie in the sky", and/or "out there" idea for Tildes? in ~tildes

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    Voat fiddled a bit with this stuff. You couldn't downvote anything until your account had given out at least 100 upvotes, and even then, you had a hard limit of not being able to downvote more...

    Voat fiddled a bit with this stuff. You couldn't downvote anything until your account had given out at least 100 upvotes, and even then, you had a hard limit of not being able to downvote more times than you upvoted. It was a global accounting balance. Naturally the downvote still killed the place, but those first couple weeks where no one could downvote because everyone was new were pretty nice.

    It might be wise to think about some kind of rate limiting or power limiting for Tildes votes.

    What if the votes were diluted? In any given day, you have a voting power of some arbitrary number, call it a hundred. During that day, if you upvote one post, it counts as the full hundred. Upvote ten posts and each counts as ten. Upvote a hundred and they each count as one. Doesn't that seem like it might help balance out the people who vote sparingly with the ones who vote generously?

    5 votes
  11. Comment on Unofficial Weekly Discussion #4 - What is your most "thinking outside the box", "pie in the sky", and/or "out there" idea for Tildes? in ~tildes

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    This one intrigues me. What if it's one topic, but it's reborn a bit each week/month/time period? New music weekly thread posted - but inside, it's just a clean, empty, new comment section. Each...

    Do away with weekly threads that repeat themselves, instead encourage people to keep the conversation going in the same topics, week after week.

    This one intrigues me. What if it's one topic, but it's reborn a bit each week/month/time period?

    New music weekly thread posted - but inside, it's just a clean, empty, new comment section. Each previous week's comments are now a ribbon across the area just above the comments, so you can click to switch to (and comment in) previous weeks discussions. It's just a view filter, really. Maybe there's even a 'flat' mode option that shows it all as one gargantuan thread.

    No more having to include links to the previous week in the current week's text, either - that's tracked automatically now. No need for bots to post threads each week if the topic is set to auto-renew. It can self-bump when it turns over. Sounds like a good case for multiple users to be able to edit it, too, as was mentioned below in another comment chain.

    We need to do something about ancient threads with thousands of comments. Time-sorting makes sense as a next step, at least for some of these weekly thread use cases. Begs the question of what other kinds of topics we may create someday. We have link, self, this would be recurring. I can imagine one for news like reddit's old live threads.

    17 votes
  12. Comment on Unofficial Weekly Discussion #4 - What is your most "thinking outside the box", "pie in the sky", and/or "out there" idea for Tildes? in ~tildes

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    Comment authored by jeff with edits from bob, joe, and mary. I think there's something to the idea of a more community-centered authorship. It'd certainly kick ass in situations where a lot of...

    Comment authored by jeff with edits from bob, joe, and mary. I think there's something to the idea of a more community-centered authorship. It'd certainly kick ass in situations where a lot of people are collaborating on list-type content or real-time events, and that happens a lot (and is usually some of the best content) on other sites. As long as it's up to the OP to accept the edits (or grant other users permission to join in the group-editing) it should be pretty resistant to abuse, too.

    5 votes
  13. Comment on Unofficial Weekly Discussion #4 - What is your most "thinking outside the box", "pie in the sky", and/or "out there" idea for Tildes? in ~tildes

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    I like this too, mentioned a similar idea a while back. Let the 'score' be more than just a rote upvote count. Instead, let the labels do the voting. It'll get more people using labels and...

    I like this too, mentioned a similar idea a while back. Let the 'score' be more than just a rote upvote count. Instead, let the labels do the voting. It'll get more people using labels and thinking harder about why they are voting. Then all we need is a solid range of labels that accurately represent how someone feels about the content so they pick whatever fits in the moment.

    Probably going to be a bit different for comments vs submissions, though.

    2 votes
  14. Comment on Unofficial Weekly Discussion #4 - What is your most "thinking outside the box", "pie in the sky", and/or "out there" idea for Tildes? in ~tildes

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    I favor the idea of developing a tagging system just based on the simple fact that the users will create one for themselves at some point. Tildes Extended supports a basic version already, it's...

    I favor the idea of developing a tagging system just based on the simple fact that the users will create one for themselves at some point. Tildes Extended supports a basic version already, it's not hard. Once that's done, that bell can't be unrung, and it'll be outside of developer control.

    Granted, if it requires an extension, most users won't use it, but some will, especially those who need it for harassing and brigading as we've seen on reddit. There are entire lists of users being traded around for those purposes right now. That's what users do, and they will do it here just like they do on reddit. It's a problem we can't avoid.

    Seems like the best way to beat that is to have a baked in feature before someone creates an external mechanism that becomes widely popular. At least that way it's up to the Tildes team what features it supports, and they have the opportunity to set the system up in such a way that it can minimize bad behaviors and incentivize good behaviors. That's assuming we can dream up a system that does the job.

    I also wonder about the large scale effects if every user has it at their fingertips, instead of just those who seek it out for whatever reasons. It's the difference between almost no users having it and all users having it and using it collectively. It seems to me that most people won't use it for nefarious purposes, and that may help wash the bad behaviors out of the system, just like the proposals for having Tildes run by tens of thousands of moderators unique to each group. In both cases, the troublemakers should remain a tiny fraction of the users.

    It's not something we need now, but if Tildes gets big, it may be an effective way to solve certain problems related to reputation. Also, remember that Tildes users in good standing will be able to leave anonymized comments instead of using their handle every time, so users will have the ability to sidestep whatever tag/reputation follows them around in the public eye. Only the admins will know who it is, and only for a small window in time, and they'll only look if there's a reason to suspect some kind of bad faith abuse.

    There are so many questions nobody has asked about how this can play out. Do you set the tags on whoever you like, however you like, with them remaining private to you? What if that info is shared just with admin-level users for abuse mitigation and detection? What if users can all collectively tag each other, so that the community decides how someone is viewed once the tags hit some display threshold? What of using specific tags for users only in specific groups, so that the tags themselves are sensitive to the context of where the thread is? What about authoritative tags, working much like twitter/youtube verified accounts?

    There are so many potential dials and fiddles on this concept I can barely get my head around it. I have no idea what the right answers to these questions are, or even if these are the right questions to be asking. It seems like a large, unexplored space where Tildes might be able to make unique advances in the concept of community trust well beyond what any other website has ever done - mainly because their motives aren't in the right place (money) and Tildes' motives are (users and community).

    It's definitely going to be a tricky/dangerous feature to play with. That's what makes it fun! It can't end any worse than our first stab at comment labels did. :P

    5 votes
  15. Comment on Unofficial Weekly Discussion #4 - What is your most "thinking outside the box", "pie in the sky", and/or "out there" idea for Tildes? in ~tildes

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    Hats and coats. When we talked about being able to tag users, it became clear that there were a lot of people using tags for very different things. It's kinda amazing what you can do with a simple...

    Hats and coats.

    When we talked about being able to tag users, it became clear that there were a lot of people using tags for very different things. It's kinda amazing what you can do with a simple text box. A lot of those uses were based on tracking user reputation - if you have a good or bad interaction you may want to tag that user with something to remind you in the future when you come across them again. We've all seen people doing this on reddit with RES. It's not something a lot of users do, but I expect that's more because you have to load RES to use it and most people don't even know RES exists.

    So if user tags ever come to Tildes, what form do they take? Can we make them more fun, engaging, and productive? How do we stop people from abusing them? That's where the idea of hats and coats came from. It might make for a useful form of user reputation tracking. The idea still needs work, it's just a germ here.

    12 votes
  16. Comment on Alaska’s universal basic income problem in ~news

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    Honestly, it should be pegged to external factors rather than a fixed amount - that would sidestep the issue of people wanting to vote themselves a raise every cycle by breaking that habit before...

    Honestly, it should be pegged to external factors rather than a fixed amount - that would sidestep the issue of people wanting to vote themselves a raise every cycle by breaking that habit before it starts. It'll insulate the dividend from inflation too. I'd peg it just below the poverty line at the federal level. State and local programs can do whatever they like on top of it.

    If automation continues to improve and we end up with more resources, the next best step is to reduce the length of the work week by a day rather than boost the basic income again.

    3 votes
  17. Comment on Which sci-fi series would you recommend? in ~movies

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    I've already got some rips the fans made and cleaned up that are better than my old box set rips, so I don't think I need them. What I need someday is a full digital remaster of this show with...

    I've already got some rips the fans made and cleaned up that are better than my old box set rips, so I don't think I need them. What I need someday is a full digital remaster of this show with newly minted special effects on blu-ray. :D

    1 vote
  18. Comment on Which sci-fi series would you recommend? in ~movies

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    Watch In The Beginning first for sure. It sets the tone of the entire story, gives you a taste of the scope of it all. The only major difference between starting there and with The Gathering is...

    Watch In The Beginning first for sure. It sets the tone of the entire story, gives you a taste of the scope of it all. The only major difference between starting there and with The Gathering is that you'll know why B5 exists and something about one mystery that is answered at the beginning of S2.

    The Gathering is the original pilot that follows naturally from In The Beginning. There are some actor and makeup/costume changes between that and S1E1, but minor arcs in that pilot come up again as late as S5. The pilot is the only ep/movie that's in 4:3. I should warn you that S1 is rougher than the rest (low budget) and more episodic since it's introducing the characters. S2-4 are a tour de force. S5 is the denouement.

  19. Comment on Andrew Yang Gets Media Cold Shoulder in ~news

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    Heh, I'd debate that. His policies are a vastly better fit for me than the rest of the field, and seem more forward thinking. With him I get everything I like about Bernie or Warren and a whole...

    Better policies, better experience, better recognized names with the associated better chance to win.

    Heh, I'd debate that. His policies are a vastly better fit for me than the rest of the field, and seem more forward thinking. With him I get everything I like about Bernie or Warren and a whole buffet of other good policies. He's got more of them on offer than anyone else with new ones going up all the time, and so far they haven't disappointed. He's also the only Ivy league on the stage. I view decades of experience inside the beltway as negative, and business experience as positive.

    I expect I'll be voting for Bernie or Warren after they win the nomination, but I'm not going to make that easy for them. I've got plenty of friends/family already registered for the democratic primary in my state, we're planning a little voting party. This will be the first time any of us have ever voted in a primary as opposed to a standard election.

    6 votes
  20. Comment on Andrew Yang Gets Media Cold Shoulder in ~news

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    Honestly, this shit happened to Ron Paul and Howard Dean as well. The media has their own favorites, they always have. I was expecting it to happen to Yang and they didn't disappoint. Thing is, a...

    Honestly, this shit happened to Ron Paul and Howard Dean as well. The media has their own favorites, they always have. I was expecting it to happen to Yang and they didn't disappoint. Thing is, a lot less people give a damn what's on television these days. The news media has a smaller reach than internet media for the first time. I also get the impression people aren't taking television news in general seriously anymore, the media seems to have lost the trust of the younger generation. It's all infotainment now, there's no 'real' news on television. It's also worth noting that, of all places, Fox News is still giving Yang positive coverage. I never thought I'd be in a position to think well of that network for anything. :P

    Meanwhile, Yang's picking up endorsements from pro wrestlers, scientists, engineers, tech entrepreneurs, CEOs, television hosts, radio and talk show hosts, podcasters, and that's just in the last three weeks. I honestly don't think Yang has anything to worry about when it comes to coverage. He's getting plenty of it through non-traditional channels. The yang gang seems to have twitter locked down.

    I'm looking forward to the wave of Yang hit pieces that will start popping up soon enough. That's the next phase of this oh so predictable cycle of dark horse candidate coverage. I expect it'll really ramp up after the next debate.

    5 votes