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  1. Comment on Implement a feature that allows users to flag and challenge exemplary labels on comments they find undeserving in ~tildes

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    What I ponder is how to scale this thing. It seems like the concept of a minimum threshold to activate 'labels' (which are just special mod actions, really) is the simplest, best way to get there....

    What I ponder is how to scale this thing. It seems like the concept of a minimum threshold to activate 'labels' (which are just special mod actions, really) is the simplest, best way to get there. The trouble comes when you consider what that threshold is in a community of millions rather than hundreds. It won't be a simple as setting a number in the code. We need a sliding scale of some kind, hopefully we can find one once the place is big enough for that to start to matter.

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  2. Comment on Implement a feature that allows users to flag and challenge exemplary labels on comments they find undeserving in ~tildes

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    The latter isn't really that hard. Open signup page, with an on/off switch. Let's give our lurkers the ability to sign up first. ;)

    The latter isn't really that hard. Open signup page, with an on/off switch. Let's give our lurkers the ability to sign up first. ;)

    5 votes
  3. Comment on Implement a feature that allows users to flag and challenge exemplary labels on comments they find undeserving in ~tildes

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    Honestly that message is better and more important than the blue label. Someday we need to explore that side-channel messaging concept that keeps coming up in our discussions about whisper...

    Honestly that message is better and more important than the blue label. Someday we need to explore that side-channel messaging concept that keeps coming up in our discussions about whisper comments, private reply chains, all that jazz. It's related.

    All of our social platforms are obsessed with one-to-many broadcast. Chasing that is all well and good, but I think people tend to forget that personal connections are also important, even if it's just something silly like a thank-you comment from an exemplary label.

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  4. Comment on Implement a feature that allows users to flag and challenge exemplary labels on comments they find undeserving in ~tildes

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    My thought is the best way to handle this is to have a threshold for Exemplary like we do with the other labels. We don't want to be taking action on any single label from any single user except...

    My thought is the best way to handle this is to have a threshold for Exemplary like we do with the other labels. We don't want to be taking action on any single label from any single user except possibly for malice. Instead we want every label that becomes active to do so through community action, rather than individual action. That means multiple independent users must apply the same label repeatedly to activate it. Of course, we haven't got enough people here at present for that sort of method to work well. That problem is temporary, though.

    Once we have this limbo/buffer where a label is still collecting enough applications to power up, we should be able to get past any mischief or mistakes or malice that's coming from individual accounts applying these labels. I hope.

    10 votes
  5. Comment on In a 5-4 ruling, Supreme Court sides with religious groups in a dispute over Covid-19 restrictions in New York in ~news

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    I wonder if the whole thing would have gone better had all of these restrictions been guidelines - no fines, no enforcement, just a very strong 'please do this and here's why it's the best course...

    I wonder if the whole thing would have gone better had all of these restrictions been guidelines - no fines, no enforcement, just a very strong 'please do this and here's why it's the best course of action', plus a healthy dose of public shaming for facepalm moments like this wedding. It seems like about a third of Americans will automatically respond with 'fuck you' to anything the government tells them they 'must' do, on general principle.

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  6. Comment on What have you been listening to this week? in ~music

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    It's cratedigging season. I have this big list of 2020 releases from artists I follow to get through. Any that make the cut will end up in the bestof thread. :)

    It's cratedigging season. I have this big list of 2020 releases from artists I follow to get through. Any that make the cut will end up in the bestof thread. :)

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  7. Comment on In a 5-4 ruling, Supreme Court sides with religious groups in a dispute over Covid-19 restrictions in New York in ~news

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    He's saying it's moot because the people/churches in question are already back to minimal restrictions. Rate's back down below the 3% 10-day rolling average that triggers state action creating a...

    He's saying it's moot because the people/churches in question are already back to minimal restrictions. Rate's back down below the 3% 10-day rolling average that triggers state action creating a cluster zone. The micro-cluster approach works.

    Then this happens.

    If NY is below 15% statewide by mid-December it'll be a miracle.

    8 votes
  8. Comment on YouTube Vanced: A privacy-friendly YouTube app for Android with ads and telemetry stripped out in ~tech

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    Honestly I appreciate your perspective and you taking more of a devil's advocate position than you normally would. It's not often I get to enjoy a conversation about this particular topic (which...

    Honestly I appreciate your perspective and you taking more of a devil's advocate position than you normally would. It's not often I get to enjoy a conversation about this particular topic (which is dead horse territory for me) that has relevant and well presented insight into the advertising industry itself.

    2 votes
  9. Comment on YouTube Vanced: A privacy-friendly YouTube app for Android with ads and telemetry stripped out in ~tech

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    Nah, I'm a Yankee, southern/western New York. I haven't heard of that show but as I'm running rather low on fresh new content I'm happy to check it out. I did watch and enjoy Mad Men but it didn't...

    Nah, I'm a Yankee, southern/western New York. I haven't heard of that show but as I'm running rather low on fresh new content I'm happy to check it out. I did watch and enjoy Mad Men but it didn't do much for my distaste for the industry.

    It's a great point that the people using the tools aren't making the best use out of what they've been given.

  10. Comment on YouTube Vanced: A privacy-friendly YouTube app for Android with ads and telemetry stripped out in ~tech

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    I think Premium is yet another scam. I even have a prophecy for you - Premium subscribers will be show ads within a couple of years. Remember back when cable television had no advertisements...

    I think Premium is yet another scam. I even have a prophecy for you - Premium subscribers will be show ads within a couple of years.

    Remember back when cable television had no advertisements because you paid for it with a subscription? Considering how well that worked out in the long run I'm pretty skeptical about Premium, or even Netflix saying no ads ever. That claim is a universal lie.

    That said, as Premium right now has no ads, if I felt like I had some money to waste on frivolous entertainment I'd get it. It's a viable solution - for a little while longer. I'd also cancel it the nanosecond an ad showed up.

    3 votes
  11. Comment on YouTube Vanced: A privacy-friendly YouTube app for Android with ads and telemetry stripped out in ~tech

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    #3 is the entire reason Google bought Youtube in the first place - with that $2 billion dollar Viacom lawsuit looming. I'd say they were committed to maintaining that monopoly before they even had...

    #3 is the entire reason Google bought Youtube in the first place - with that $2 billion dollar Viacom lawsuit looming. I'd say they were committed to maintaining that monopoly before they even had one.

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  12. Comment on YouTube Vanced: A privacy-friendly YouTube app for Android with ads and telemetry stripped out in ~tech

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    I see that too, usually on younger amateur channels - I never take an endorsement as gospel, I just think it's better more often and relevant more often than the scattershot of shitty youtube...

    But as often I not I see people whose opinions I mostly otherwise respect endorsing crappy mobile games or worse, "explaining" how VPNs work - they clearly don't know what they're selling and are only doing it for the money.

    I see that too, usually on younger amateur channels - I never take an endorsement as gospel, I just think it's better more often and relevant more often than the scattershot of shitty youtube commercials that get longer and more numerous each passing day. Plus, the discounts given to channel subscribers as part of the sponsorship are good incentives to try products out. Couple percent off, free trial, sure. I can get behind that. VPNs ads are omnipresent, but thanks to that I know which VPNs run in memory only server-side and do their job, and which ones aren't built right. That's relevant to a lot of people (anyone with internet, really) and I'd plug VPNs on my channel as well if I were running one.

    The guy who includes 30 minutes of garbage sponsors in a video is his own worst enemy, but he'll know that from the subscription/view numbers cratering and his comment section. Seems like the feedback is more immediate and personal. Harder to ignore. Better incentive to get the plugs right, make them fun/part of the channel.

    If I was seeing a skippable advertisement (or even a short unskippable one) per half hour of content consumed I can live with that. If I'm getting (as now) two unskippable commercials aimed at people who have chimp brains per short video, plus multiple poorly timed interruptions (in the middle of music tracks?! even more insulting), plus now post-video commercials I'm just going to nope out and block it all.

    Ain't nobody got time for that, certainly not me. I'm not above having a server here download all my content, forcibly and automatically strip it of advertising blocks, and then watching the edited copy. I've done that for TV in the past, tools exist and are good at it. I haven't checked but I'll wager they exist for streaming platforms by now. If they don't yet, they will. No ABFs to key on, but there are other ways.

    This is why ads get static. They occupy an eternally increasing section of attention. They always get out of control, it's just a question of time. Seems like 99% of them are false claims, exaggerations, or where-did-the-soda-go levels of stupid. I'm sure every single person reading this knew a decade ago when youtube was bought by google that we'd be here, right now, with this ad bloat problem. I certainly did. I respect the few outlets and publications that manage to resist this slow creep and keep their ads reasonable. I have a whitelist of sites that I want to support for this reason. If the ads aren't obnoxious and breaking into the text, I don't mind a whitelist.

    If I'm getting entire shows shoved at me (40+ minutes) in one of these 'advertising slots' (which has happened many, many times) I'm not just going to block it, I'm going to preach to the world for everyone to know how to block that crap, plus laugh about it and generally be an asshole, because now I'm being mocked by the platform. My goal is now defunding that platform, chasing them them out of business to make way for a non-idiot competitor to do a better job, and having a marshmallow roast over their burning corpse when that day comes.

    That's not nice or charitable, but when you're assaulting me with that much stupid and wasting that much of my time, I feel like scorn and ridicule is more deserved. The good news is that people like me are pretty rare edge cases that can be ignored, the bad news is making ads impossible for me to avoid is likely to chase all the normies away in the process by making the site worse. I'm not a target advertisers can reasonably expect to reach.

    Or, you know... just pitch me relevant stuff that's reviewed well on my channels and then I'll be singing the product/sponsor's praises instead. It really seems to sidestep the entire mess, be better for consumers and creators, and would probably lead to a better platform. Not that I really expect things to go this way on a broad scale. Perhaps with youtube's successor, when that day comes.

    One thing that I feel would really help is an option 'no more ads in this product category' - find me something else. The repetition is really grating - how preternaturally stupid are tech companies if they can't track which ads you've seen and which you haven't when they are the ones serving them to you? Seems like that might be an important bit of information. Frankly, youtube is ripping off advertisers if they pay for views and show me the same ad 30 times. That's one view at best, someone's being lied to if they think they actually reach 30 people with 30 views. Seems like unique views would be more fair.

    6 votes
  13. Comment on YouTube Vanced: A privacy-friendly YouTube app for Android with ads and telemetry stripped out in ~tech

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    Oddly enough, that's the one single form of advertising I don't mind seeing - the sponsorships done by the content creator that are actually a part of the video. At least then I know that...

    I'll start rendering the ads directly into my videos if you like, you've requested that media stream..

    Oddly enough, that's the one single form of advertising I don't mind seeing - the sponsorships done by the content creator that are actually a part of the video. At least then I know that individual knows exactly who is sponsoring them and has a high enough opinion of that sponsor to endorse them. They are putting their own reputation on the line with that endorsement. I trust that more than a scattershot of poorly-matched often-repetitive commercials being doled out by algorithms.

    Odds are near-certain that if I picked a channel for a topic, and a sponsor picked a channel for the same topic, that's because people interested in that topic are likely to be interested in that product. It also means the person running the channel has higher odds of being able to evaluate the pros/cons/trust of that sponsor, because their product is relevant in some way to the topic at hand, and we're all there to hear that person's relevant knowledge and get their take - including a take on businesses and products in that arena.

    I have to also ask - doesn't a direct sponsorship beat youtube's payouts, and can't one have a sponsorship in one's channels without the platform itself taking a cut out of that? Wouldn't that lead to higher revenue gains, possibly much higher if that channel ever becomes popular? Couldn't one set one's own rates for sponsorships or plugs in one's own videos much higher than the platform would?

    14 votes
  14. Comment on Credit-based communication platforms? in ~tech

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    LBRY is a newish video content platform that's going in this direction. They've built it on blockchain and crypto, so you earn credits through using the site and its social systems. If you want...

    LBRY is a newish video content platform that's going in this direction. They've built it on blockchain and crypto, so you earn credits through using the site and its social systems. If you want the full technical description of their platform it's at this link.

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  15. Comment on YouTube can now place ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them in ~tech

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    You can send all the ads you like down the pipe, youtube. None of them will ever reach my screen, so sorry. Filtering the ad garbage out has never been that difficult.

    You can send all the ads you like down the pipe, youtube. None of them will ever reach my screen, so sorry. Filtering the ad garbage out has never been that difficult.

    4 votes
  16. Comment on Joe Biden just appointed his climate movement liaison. It’s a fossil-fuel industry ally. in ~news

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    Better than I do about most outlets. I'd also add Al Jazeera to the list, at least that one still watches like a sane old school news cast.

    Better than I do about most outlets. I'd also add Al Jazeera to the list, at least that one still watches like a sane old school news cast.

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  17. Comment on Joe Biden just appointed his climate movement liaison. It’s a fossil-fuel industry ally. in ~news

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    There's also a similar split in the Republicans, though it's older, rooted in the original Tea Party (before it was bought out by Koch). The libertarian-leaning republicans come in between 10-15%...

    There's also a similar split in the Republicans, though it's older, rooted in the original Tea Party (before it was bought out by Koch). The libertarian-leaning republicans come in between 10-15% of the total RNC voting base depending on poll sources/locations, and I get the sense they are just as fed up with the RNC as the progressive wing of the liberals is with the DNC. They aren't keen on the libertarian party for the most part, either.

    We always see third party voting billed as a siphon on blue votes. I think the opportunity is there for a third party to siphon from both major parties. If you can get the libertarian conservatives and liberal progressives on the same page for one cycle, you might have a shot. Yang and Tulsi were the democrats that got the attention of the libertarians this cycle. They like Tulsi for her military background, and they like Yang for his libertarian-minded implementations of standard progressive policy (and that's the glue that makes this possible). They are the only democrats I don't see regularly flame-roasted on conservative leaning forums or shows.

    Can we find someone both sides like? Will anyone ever chase that option? If they did, could they win? If they won, could that coalition actually make a difference? Frankly, it's hard to see how. What seems clear, though, is that there's a sizeable chunk of the red and blue voters that are both ready to break ranks from their respective parties. They aren't happy with their choices on either side.

    In your split scenario there (which I can honestly see as a possibility) there are plenty on both sides of the aisle to bring in.

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  18. Comment on Joe Biden just appointed his climate movement liaison. It’s a fossil-fuel industry ally. in ~news

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    I watch some of The Hill's content and I have to agree with this. No one is unbiased. There's no such thing as a trustworthy news source - never was, never will be. If you think you watch...

    I watch some of The Hill's content and I have to agree with this.

    No one is unbiased. There's no such thing as a trustworthy news source - never was, never will be. If you think you watch 'trusted' sources I think you're fooling yourself no matter who it is. You're better off understanding the bias of the network or program you are watching and keeping that in mind. Crystal and Saagar are pure snark, I find plenty of things to disagree with and scoff at in their reporting. Of course, I find just as much to make me roll my eyes in the New York Times (with extreme liberal bias) or in anything published by the Epoch Times (with extreme conservative bias).

    My solution was just to start watching everyone then hope the truth makes an appearance somewhere in the mess. I like having a sense of what each group is thinking and what their signaling looks like. Epoch Times (aka Crossroads and NTD) is so full of subtle conservative doublespeak that I worry they'll take over from Fox news someday. They are much better at it than Fox ever was.

    Everyone is picking a 'team' to cater to with their online journalism. This is what we get with advertising being their main revenue source. It sucks. If we want real honest news someday, I feel like it's got to be divorced from the profit motive and from advertising somehow or it'll never get there.

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  19. Comment on Campaign for a Green Nuclear Deal: forging a new America in ~enviro

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    It's refreshing to see a zero bullshit honest list of MSR unanswered questions. Usually it's conflating the old reactors with MSRs and those arguments just don't carry over. I've watched a couple...

    It's refreshing to see a zero bullshit honest list of MSR unanswered questions. Usually it's conflating the old reactors with MSRs and those arguments just don't carry over. I've watched a couple Thorcon videos now - their hope is to get funding from Indonesia for the startup investment. They need power (rolling blackouts are common) and it's Thorcon or some thirty-plus coal plants. Those are their options. If they get the funding for the testbed, it's todo list is basically what you just linked.

    They aren't trying for the fancy MSRs with clever designs that so many of the other startups are chasing. They intend to build - with minor improvements - the exact same MSR that ran for 20,000 hours at ORNL in the 60s. They are straight up ignoring all the tasty distractions and just going for the dumbest, simplest can that works on their power ships. They or some other company can invent a better can, and waste burners, later - we don't need it to get started. I rather like that approach. It's one of the most practical I've seen, almost to the point of being a viable business plan.

    I like Thorcon just because the power is mobile and that's a killer feature in a world dealing with climate change. I wish them all the best of luck.

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