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  1. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    PSP did an internal poll of their followers on this very topic and just published it on their live stream (link to start of poll report). 6.8k respondents voted, and this is how it came out. This...

    PSP did an internal poll of their followers on this very topic and just published it on their live stream (link to start of poll report). 6.8k respondents voted, and this is how it came out. This was all Yang gang voting, it wasn't a public poll.

    1. Quit Politics/Not Vote: 50%
    2. Vote Bernie: 23%
    3. Vote Trump: 16%
    4. Vote 2nd choice in Dem Party: 7%
    5. Vote Blue no matter who: 4%

    I'd share the link but they haven't posted it yet. I'll update when it's open to the public.

    4 votes
  2. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    Andrew was doing a little of this. I have a feeling when he was on Joe Rogan he got some tips from Joe on working a crowd. After that Andrew's speeches were more like a standup performance. He was...

    Subtle mockery is the only way. Make regular people feel like they’re in on the joke as you laugh at how ridiculous they’re being and redirect to a bigger message that hits your campaign themes.

    Andrew was doing a little of this. I have a feeling when he was on Joe Rogan he got some tips from Joe on working a crowd. After that Andrew's speeches were more like a standup performance. He was trying out lines and the ones that got laughs stuck around for the next event.

    That's not a bad way to approach political theater. You get to use the entire election season to create your pitch and refine it.

    2 votes
  3. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    Except for Yang. He had the best possible defense against that attack with his human-centered capitalism pitch, and I think that's the biggest reason he got so much support from conservatives and...

    Every democratic candidate has the "socialist" thing working against them.

    Except for Yang. He had the best possible defense against that attack with his human-centered capitalism pitch, and I think that's the biggest reason he got so much support from conservatives and unhappy Trump voters. He was sidestepping that entire line of attacks, even when he was on Fox with Tucker or doing Shapiro's or Rubin's podcasts - and they believed him.

    3 votes
  4. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    There are a lot of live streams on twitch and youtube that the gang has been using as one of their primary vehicles to get his message out and coordinate. The chat content scrolling by on all of...

    There are a lot of live streams on twitch and youtube that the gang has been using as one of their primary vehicles to get his message out and coordinate. The chat content scrolling by on all of them at breakneck speed is where I'm seeing all of these sentiments. Even The Hill's stream was overwhelmed with it at 40k active viewers.

    I'm not sure how widespread this sentiment is looking at sources like that, but it's definitely part of the air supply today. Left to their own devices, the gang is going to break up and go back to their respective camps or to not voting. They'll listen to Andrew, though, so if he makes a statement or someone else adopts the dividend I expect a good chunk of them will follow his lead.

    The DNC has a window to capture the yang gang (and their messaging to conservative voters). It won't stay open forever, though.

    Edit: One other near-universal sentiment I see is that Trump just won the election. The trump supporters who came over to the gang honestly think the DNC just lost its only chance at beating him. They don't like Bernie's odds at all.

    I'm more optimistic, but still. It goes to show you how powerful Yang's messaging was to conservatives. The rest of the field doesn't seem to have anything to offer them other than 'not Trump.'

    4 votes
  5. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    I've seen that proposal before, and I'd vote for it. You're right, though - this process takes bottom-up support to make it happen.

    I've seen that proposal before, and I'd vote for it. You're right, though - this process takes bottom-up support to make it happen.

    1 vote
  6. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    I see a lot of sentiment going back to Trump, or writing in Yang, or voting 3rd party. The yang gang seems to be behaving a lot like the worst of the bernie bros today.

    I see a lot of sentiment going back to Trump, or writing in Yang, or voting 3rd party. The yang gang seems to be behaving a lot like the worst of the bernie bros today.

    4 votes
  7. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    I feel like Yang would be wasted as VP. Better to put him to work in the cabinet as secretary of labor or technology.

    I feel like Yang would be wasted as VP. Better to put him to work in the cabinet as secretary of labor or technology.

    7 votes
  8. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    The DNC has the power to absorb every good idea championed by any of their candidates and make it a part of their party platform. If they want to build a big tent, that's the way to get there....

    The DNC has the power to absorb every good idea championed by any of their candidates and make it a part of their party platform. If they want to build a big tent, that's the way to get there. That way the ideas that draw new people in don't get lost because this or that candidate doesn't make the cut.

    3 votes
  9. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    I hadn't heard that perspective on it before. How depressing. The dividend's ability to empower women and minorities is my favorite aspect of that policy. You might enjoy this breakdown of why...

    I hadn't heard that perspective on it before. How depressing. The dividend's ability to empower women and minorities is my favorite aspect of that policy.

    You might enjoy this breakdown of why it's better than anything else in the welfare space. That was posted to the yang subreddit a couple weeks back and it's a great explanation of why many people like the dividend more than they like traditional progressive talking points and policy.

    It's a monster effortpost, so bring some coffee. ;)

    4 votes
  10. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    The big L libertarians live in crazy town. There's no talking to them, believe me I've tried. They think anarchy is some kind of paradise. The good news is that they are a minority in libertarian...

    The big L libertarians live in crazy town. There's no talking to them, believe me I've tried. They think anarchy is some kind of paradise.

    The good news is that they are a minority in libertarian circles. The small-l libertarians are much more open minded and not married to that Randian nonsense. They'll support anything that improves people's freedoms. They'll side squarely with dems on almost all of the social issues already.

    On economic issues, it depends on if the dem's proposals are unworkable nonsense like job guarantees and wealth taxes, or if they actually have a plan with hard data that says it can work. You have to convince them you've done your homework and let them check the results.

    They won't vote for anything that gives government more power to interfere in people's lives - government telling people what they 'must' do. They will vote for things that improve society as long as it doesn't come with government bloat and new government institutions and marching orders.

    Oh, and they really hate taxes. That seems to be universal. The small-l types will accept the inevitability of them without much more than a grumble, and it's really the income tax that bothers them in my experience. They were totally on board with Yang's VAT because it was going back to the people rather than to any government agency.

    5 votes
  11. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    I see an awful lot of Trump sentiment in Yang's corner after this dropout. Seems like the gang is splitting up at like 30% Bernie 70% Trump. Streams and threads about it are very angry with the...

    I see an awful lot of Trump sentiment in Yang's corner after this dropout. Seems like the gang is splitting up at like 30% Bernie 70% Trump. Streams and threads about it are very angry with the DNC and the media, you can imagine how that's playing out.

    The democrats seem uniquely capable of attracting republicans and independents, then pissing them off and driving them away. If they expect to beat Trump they'll need to change that behavior and work on retention. That means adopting the policies that drew these people in as part of the party platform.

    Edit: Predictable the_donald thread welcoming Yang supporters. If you want to get inside their heads, it's right there.

    4 votes
  12. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    It's historically been a republican policy, they were the ones that almost made it law under Nixon - until the democrats killed it in the senate because the payment wasn't big enough for them....

    It's historically been a republican policy, they were the ones that almost made it law under Nixon - until the democrats killed it in the senate because the payment wasn't big enough for them.

    Even in today's climate it'll resonate strongly with rural voters and most of the republican base.

    2 votes
  13. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    I'd say America's chief export is corruption. :P

    I'd say America's chief export is corruption. :P

    2 votes
  14. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    That's his main reason for dropping out. He's been saying all along (for almost two years) that if he can't see a path to win he's out. He made that call tonight. I can promise you right now...

    That's his main reason for dropping out. He's been saying all along (for almost two years) that if he can't see a path to win he's out. He made that call tonight.

    I can promise you right now anyone calling him from the other campaigns asking for endorsements or support is being told, 'adopt the dividend and I'm in' as that's been the overriding goal all along for Yang's camp. He's in a decent bargaining position right now.

    In the better timeline, Bernie locks him down and adopts the dividend. It'll make most of the other things Bernie wants to do easier, it's a workable republican olive branch, and I know Andrew can sell it to him, if he'll listen.

    7 votes
  15. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    So far the turnout hasn't been inspiring. What were the numbers in NH? I haven't seen them yet, still 75% reporting. Iowa's turnout was really bad.

    So far the turnout hasn't been inspiring. What were the numbers in NH? I haven't seen them yet, still 75% reporting. Iowa's turnout was really bad.

    6 votes
  16. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    That's the impression I have as well. People underestimate just how efficient the Republican machine is, even when it's not in power. Bernie is the only one I see who has a real shot at taking...

    That's the impression I have as well. People underestimate just how efficient the Republican machine is, even when it's not in power.

    Bernie is the only one I see who has a real shot at taking down trump. And by real shot I mean even money. Warren Pete and Biden won't last past one debate with him. He will bury them with their records and gaffes and laugh while doing it.

    At least with Bernie that crap doesn't stick. His record is about as close to unimpeachable as it gets in politics, and he's still sharp and focused. I just worry we're electing a divisive one term president with him. I hope to be wrong about that.

    12 votes
  17. Comment on Andrew Yang drops out of presidential race in ~news

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    On one hand I'm disappointed more people didn't get into his policies. On the other I'm glad he dropped out early and decided not to drag it out and muddy the field. Bernie is going to get a...

    On one hand I'm disappointed more people didn't get into his policies. On the other I'm glad he dropped out early and decided not to drag it out and muddy the field. Bernie is going to get a significant chunk of Yang's supporters. The rest will be staying home or voting Trump unless the DNC gives them a reason to care. I'm not very optimistic about their ability to do that.

    I'm interested in seeing who adopts the dividend. If it dies so does any interest I had in this election, and I'll end up voting Bernie just to spite the establishment.

    Credit to Yang for making UBI into a normal everyday american political topic, though. He moved the overton window more than anyone else this cycle so far. People will remember his talking points when truckers start striking and other automation-related woes start cropping up.

    To any other campaigns out there - if you want the gang on board, all it takes is the dividend. That'll be enough, even for most of the libertarians who supported him.

    20 votes
  18. Comment on An idea on how to allow anonymous posts/comments without ruining Tildes in ~tildes

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    The sole purpose of this feature is to avoid coloring your own comments with your own reputation in the eyes of other users. Let's say you're a celebrity/politician like Arnold. Care to guess what...

    The sole purpose of this feature is to avoid coloring your own comments with your own reputation in the eyes of other users.

    Let's say you're a celebrity/politician like Arnold.

    Care to guess what the ramifications of his posting a political comment in a political discussion would be, for himself and for those who would know it was coming from him? His only recourse is to refrain from those conversations or to create an alt, which inevitably litters up the database with dead/inactive accounts and depletes the username pool. It also dilutes the reputation for that individual across multiple accounts.

    There are plenty of reasons people will choose to use some form of anonymity while sharing personal anecdotes or personal opinions. They will do this with or without the site's support or endorsement. Better to support the feature natively. Supporting it also makes it easier to track abuse, not harder.

    People are lazy, they'll gladly use the anon feature rather than make a new account which is far more work. This lets us make sure their anon comments count for and against their reputation/trust on the site, and also means they could still have access to elevated features that have to be earned while making anon comments.

    4 votes
  19. Comment on What is your default sort for Tildes? in ~tildes

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    New, then I click through to all activity once I've checked out the new topics.

    New, then I click through to all activity once I've checked out the new topics.

    1 vote
  20. Comment on What are your unpopular game opinions? in ~games

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    I'd say they only really messed up with their neglect on the server community front. The grouping roulette made it easier to find groups by teaming up with people from other servers, but that also...

    I'd say they only really messed up with their neglect on the server community front. The grouping roulette made it easier to find groups by teaming up with people from other servers, but that also meant you didn't get to know the people on your own server at anywhere near the level of games like EQ. Rather defeats the purpose of an MMO, imo. That wasn't just blizzard, either, most MMOs made that mistake, it's a large part of what killed Rift off. Other than that one nitpick I'd agree with you, quality of life in WoW is much better than in classic MMOs.

    2 votes