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For an ecological realpolitik

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  1. Merry
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    Some quotes I found interesting in the article: Two questions from the article that I would be curious on your opinion: Article's conclusion:

    Some quotes I found interesting in the article:

    With the United States mired in a democratic crisis and Europe stuck in its wait-and-see attitude, China has taken the lead and opened a breach by signaling that it is now possible, indeed necessary, to pursue power politics without relying on fossil fuels. It goes without saying that China’s plan for financing a decarbonized production infrastructure in no way means that the country is abandoning its dream of geostrategic influence and development, but simply that from now on it intends to ground its power—both its economic engine and its strategic base—in other material possibilities.

    The Green New Deal, in its significantly varied American and European versions, does not yet structure investment plans that are both capable of meeting the challenge and truly rooted in social justice objectives, but it has imposed itself as the common ground of the Western left.

    Yet the strength of the Green New Deal is also its weakness. This plan for economic and social reconstruction aims to break through the barrier of the employment problem by subordinating energy transition to wealth redistribution, control of investment channels, and even job guarantees. Thus defined, this project runs the risk of preserving the structural inequities between Global North and Global South. Whereas the so-called “developing” countries will lack the means to finance such plans, their partners to the North will have the wherewithal to reinvest their techno-scientific capital in a renovation that will only enhance their “lead” and their security. This paradox, which Tooze recently analyzed, is all the more embarrassing for the social-ecological left inasmuch as it compromises its rallying cry, namely the discourse of inclusion and global justice. Seen from the Global South, the Green New Deal often looks like a consolidation of the advantages gained during the colonial period of extractivism, and also like a lifeboat for advanced economies at a time of global disturbances. Since at least the 1990s, Western environmentalism has been the subject of scathing criticism, notably from India. Ramachandra Guha, for instance, exposed the colonial and racist imaginary of the “wilderness” that enabled Americans to cleanse their urban and industrial guilty conscience by way of natural parks, which were established by evicting indigenous populations.


    Two questions from the article that I would be curious on your opinion:

    First, what kind of alliance will it establish with the Chinese model to safeguard at least what is essential on a strictly climatic level, at the risk of no longer having “clean hands”?

    And, symmetrically, how will it make its specificity heard with regard to this new paradigm?


    Article's conclusion:

    The ecology movement should therefore agree to talk about strategy, conflict, and security; it should present itself as a dynamics of building a political form that assumes the idea of power without scaling back on social and democratic demands. In fact, these demands can only be achieved if they are invested into specifically political reflections and practices. But for this to be possible, we have to leave behind our tendency toward moral depoliticization, because we no longer have a monopoly on the critique of the fossil development paradigm

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    meff
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    I've always been confused about this sort of thinking in the ecology movement because it alludes to a government philosophy that's pretty much left unsaid. What does it mean to account for "social...

    The ecology movement should therefore agree to talk about strategy, conflict, and security; it should present itself as a dynamics of building a political form that assumes the idea of power without scaling back on social and democratic demands.

    I've always been confused about this sort of thinking in the ecology movement because it alludes to a government philosophy that's pretty much left unsaid. What does it mean to account for "social and democratic demands"; I mean there are hundreds of political philosophies that claim to do so, all of which criticize fossil fuel usage. Most of these articles I find in online magazines seem to assume (from my reading anyway) some form of anarcho-socialist political organization, but I certainly question why, as criticizing fossil fuels is not really related to anarcho-socialism in any way.


    That said, I do think there's an opportunity for China and Russia to use pollution as an axis of diplomacy. If China and Russia can make and keep stable commitments to clean energy, I can see a future trying to levy environmental related sanctions on Europe and the US in an attempt to project soft power. It'll be an interesting world then where the US and Europe form an opposing axis of fossil fuel usage.

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      Merry
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      I agree. However, I will say China is well more able to make the transition and use their clout in that respect. Too much of Russia is controlled by natural gas/oil oligarchs that I think they...

      That said, I do think there's an opportunity for China and Russia to use pollution as an axis of diplomacy. If China and Russia can make and keep stable commitments to clean energy, I can see a future trying to levy environmental related sanctions on Europe and the US in an attempt to project soft power. It'll be an interesting world then where the US and Europe form an opposing axis of fossil fuel usage.

      I agree. However, I will say China is well more able to make the transition and use their clout in that respect. Too much of Russia is controlled by natural gas/oil oligarchs that I think they face the same issues that the US has in implementing change. That being a policy-driven by powerful special interest groups.

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      1. meff
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        I agree that the Natgas/Oil oligarchy in Russia poses a large threat for the reasons you say, but if the Russian authoritarian government can apply pressure to the oligarchs to switch to investing...

        I agree that the Natgas/Oil oligarchy in Russia poses a large threat for the reasons you say, but if the Russian authoritarian government can apply pressure to the oligarchs to switch to investing in solar, wind, or geothermal (without losing their hegemony which is a key aspect to getting their buy-in), then they have a strong case to transition into Green diplomacy.

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