It's not like you were going to live forever if only you did everything right. No matter what you do to extend your life, you're going to die someday, and it's probably going to suck. Furthermore,...
It's not like you were going to live forever if only you did everything right. No matter what you do to extend your life, you're going to die someday, and it's probably going to suck.
Furthermore, why is life under capitalism worth extending? So you get a few more years in which you can make rich assholes richer? Fuck that noise.
You might as well have a drink. Maybe two if you're done for the day and done have to drive anywhere. There's no need to make every night a rager, but no point in abstaining either.
My point is that you might as well have a drink if you want one. Maybe two if you don't have to do any driving later. No need to go nuts, but there's no real point to abstaining, is there?
My point is that you might as well have a drink if you want one. Maybe two if you don't have to do any driving later. No need to go nuts, but there's no real point to abstaining, is there?
100% this. The public health/medicine literature has been torn for years if a glass of wine a day is healthy or not (as the article points out, there's some protective benefit from heart disease...
I think what you should take from the study is that the belief that a glass (or two) per day being healthy, is not telling the full story. That the net gain from a health perspective is negative, not positive.
100% this. The public health/medicine literature has been torn for years if a glass of wine a day is healthy or not (as the article points out, there's some protective benefit from heart disease that comes from the grapes) but that there could be a greater risk of other diseases like cancer from it.
I really appreciated the last few blurbs from the article here, and I think they touch at something important:
"Given the pleasure presumably associated with moderate drinking, claiming there is no 'safe' level does not seem an argument for abstention," he said.
"There is no safe level of driving, but the government does not recommend that people avoid driving.
"Come to think of it, there is no safe level of living, but nobody would recommend abstention."
I never believed that drinking was healthy, but I figured that as long as I was sensible about it there was no meaningful harm in it. I set limits for myself, and I stick to them: one can/bottle...
I never believed that drinking was healthy, but I figured that as long as I was sensible about it there was no meaningful harm in it. I set limits for myself, and I stick to them: one can/bottle of hard cider a night during the week, two at most on Saturdays and Sundays. At my size that isn't even enough to get perceptibly buzzed, let alone drunk, and that's a good thing because I learned as a very young man that I'm a mean drunk.
This is also where I'm currently at right now. I indulge maybe 2-3 drinks a week made with mid-shelf alcohols (it's all my broke ass can afford) that I turn into cocktails I have fun making.
Furthermore, why is life under capitalism worth extending? So you get a few more years in which you can make rich assholes richer? Fuck that noise.
This is also where I'm currently at right now. I indulge maybe 2-3 drinks a week made with mid-shelf alcohols (it's all my broke ass can afford) that I turn into cocktails I have fun making.
I'm a hard cider guy myself. In the summer I like to get a twelve-pack every couple of weeks or so and have a can/bottle with dinner. It's a replacement for soda. Speaking of which: when my wife I...
I'm a hard cider guy myself. In the summer I like to get a twelve-pack every couple of weeks or so and have a can/bottle with dinner. It's a replacement for soda.
Speaking of which: when my wife I went to Paris in June 2017, we got most of our dinners at the kebab place near our hotel. The few occasions we ate at a proper Parisian cafe or restaurant, we always noticed that the price for a glass of Coke was the same as that of a glass of red wine -- so we'd get the wine. :)
Can't you basically say the same thing about air and water though? I mean, humans evolved a liver and kidneys and metabolic pathways to use them a long time ago. Part of our fitness as a species...
Can't you basically say the same thing about air and water though? I mean, humans evolved a liver and kidneys and metabolic pathways to use them a long time ago. Part of our fitness as a species is our ability to obtain nutrition from a huge variety of sources without getting too dead. One consequence of that is that we've come to find it enjoyable to mildly poison ourselves from time to time.
Maybe it's no accident then that alcohol plays such a large role in our courting rituals - it's literally an indication of fitness, as well as a social lubricant.
To quote the article, because honestly, I loved how frank this was: I read it and will basically not change anything. I'm a glass of wine at dinner sometimes drinker.
To quote the article, because honestly, I loved how frank this was:
"Come to think of it, there is no safe level of living, but nobody would recommend abstention."
I read it and will basically not change anything. I'm a glass of wine at dinner sometimes drinker.
The same can be said about soda pop, but in the US we tax booze and set a minimum purchaser age for it while subsidizing the production of soda (via corn subsidies) and allowing it to be sold to...
Absolutely, but there isn't exactly nutrition in alcohol. Even if it's very fun.
The same can be said about soda pop, but in the US we tax booze and set a minimum purchaser age for it while subsidizing the production of soda (via corn subsidies) and allowing it to be sold to children. We do this even though obesity caused by soda consumption may be a bigger public-health threat than harm caused by alcohol consumption.
It's not like you were going to live forever if only you did everything right. No matter what you do to extend your life, you're going to die someday, and it's probably going to suck.
Furthermore, why is life under capitalism worth extending? So you get a few more years in which you can make rich assholes richer? Fuck that noise.
You might as well have a drink. Maybe two if you're done for the day and done have to drive anywhere. There's no need to make every night a rager, but no point in abstaining either.
My point is that you might as well have a drink if you want one. Maybe two if you don't have to do any driving later. No need to go nuts, but there's no real point to abstaining, is there?
100% this. The public health/medicine literature has been torn for years if a glass of wine a day is healthy or not (as the article points out, there's some protective benefit from heart disease that comes from the grapes) but that there could be a greater risk of other diseases like cancer from it.
I really appreciated the last few blurbs from the article here, and I think they touch at something important:
I never believed that drinking was healthy, but I figured that as long as I was sensible about it there was no meaningful harm in it. I set limits for myself, and I stick to them: one can/bottle of hard cider a night during the week, two at most on Saturdays and Sundays. At my size that isn't even enough to get perceptibly buzzed, let alone drunk, and that's a good thing because I learned as a very young man that I'm a mean drunk.
This is also where I'm currently at right now. I indulge maybe 2-3 drinks a week made with mid-shelf alcohols (it's all my broke ass can afford) that I turn into cocktails I have fun making.
I'm a hard cider guy myself. In the summer I like to get a twelve-pack every couple of weeks or so and have a can/bottle with dinner. It's a replacement for soda.
Speaking of which: when my wife I went to Paris in June 2017, we got most of our dinners at the kebab place near our hotel. The few occasions we ate at a proper Parisian cafe or restaurant, we always noticed that the price for a glass of Coke was the same as that of a glass of red wine -- so we'd get the wine. :)
Good example of why you shouldn't take articles about scientific studies at face value.
Can't you basically say the same thing about air and water though? I mean, humans evolved a liver and kidneys and metabolic pathways to use them a long time ago. Part of our fitness as a species is our ability to obtain nutrition from a huge variety of sources without getting too dead. One consequence of that is that we've come to find it enjoyable to mildly poison ourselves from time to time.
Maybe it's no accident then that alcohol plays such a large role in our courting rituals - it's literally an indication of fitness, as well as a social lubricant.
To quote the article, because honestly, I loved how frank this was:
I read it and will basically not change anything. I'm a glass of wine at dinner sometimes drinker.
The same can be said about soda pop, but in the US we tax booze and set a minimum purchaser age for it while subsidizing the production of soda (via corn subsidies) and allowing it to be sold to children. We do this even though obesity caused by soda consumption may be a bigger public-health threat than harm caused by alcohol consumption.