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Norway is offering drug-free treatment to people with psychosis

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    novov
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    I'd like to see more of this kind of thing. A lot of anti-psychotic medication has severely detrimental side effects that are ignored by much of society, because they see medicated people as...

    I'd like to see more of this kind of thing. A lot of anti-psychotic medication has severely detrimental side effects that are ignored by much of society, because they see medicated people as effectively cured. Psychosis is an outgrowth of an integral part of the mind, one that often cannot be removed without severe consequences.

    To be clear, this kind of thing should only really be done in a controlled environment, given the unpredictable and perception-distorting nature of people's afflictions. And it of course doesn't work for everyone, as the article says, but it's still very much something that should be encouraged under the correct circumstances.


    (disclaimer: I once had an experience that could be described as an psychotic break, and now take medication. although it's anti-anxiety, not anti-psychotic, my symptoms have mostly abated.)

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      mrbig
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      The way antipsychotics work, it's nearly impossible not to have some kind of detrimental effects... but the benefits often outweigh the side effects, as you most likely know.

      The way antipsychotics work, it's nearly impossible not to have some kind of detrimental effects... but the benefits often outweigh the side effects, as you most likely know.

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        novov
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        Oh definitely, especially with the newer generation of medications.

        Oh definitely, especially with the newer generation of medications.

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          vord
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          Even the new stuff isn't great. It's better than the old stuff though. Anti-psychotics should be a measure of last resort, and as short term as possible. IMO this is true of all mind-altering...

          Even the new stuff isn't great. It's better than the old stuff though.

          Anti-psychotics should be a measure of last resort, and as short term as possible. IMO this is true of all mind-altering drugs.

          My doc and I have a lot of talks. Especially in the USA, mental health issues are amplified exponentially due to poverty and overwork.

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            mrbig
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            Some drugs should definitely be a first resort and not using them in time is extremely dangerous. Beware of hasty generalizations!

            Some drugs should definitely be a first resort and not using them in time is extremely dangerous. Beware of hasty generalizations!

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              vord
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              Sorry, missed a word. Mind altering drugs in particular. A rescue inhaler very different from Xanax.

              Sorry, missed a word. Mind altering drugs in particular.

              A rescue inhaler very different from Xanax.

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                mrbig
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                What I said is also true for mind altering drugs. What are you supposed to do with someone profoundly and violently psychotic? Talk to them?

                What I said is also true for mind altering drugs. What are you supposed to do with someone profoundly and violently psychotic? Talk to them?

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                1. vord
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                  No, but that also qualifies as a 'last resort'. I've been profoundly psychotic. I yelled loudly about nonsense, but I didn't turn violent until they came at me the needle and two strongmen to...

                  No, but that also qualifies as a 'last resort'.

                  I've been profoundly psychotic. I yelled loudly about nonsense, but I didn't turn violent until they came at me the needle and two strongmen to force me down.

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