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New to video editing, any tips and weaknesses to improve on when working on future anime edits?

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  1. [9]
    mrbig
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    I haven’t watched many AMV but I’ll give it a shot. You should find sources without subtitles. They’re distracting. AMVs usually don’t tell a story but benefit from a suggestion of narrative. Your...

    I haven’t watched many AMV but I’ll give it a shot.

    You should find sources without subtitles. They’re distracting.

    AMVs usually don’t tell a story but benefit from a suggestion of narrative. Your choice of images seem to take rhythm and intensity into account but there’s no clear progression. You use images from several animes, which probably doesn’t help with cohesion.

    IMHO this video is a fine exercise in video editing, but you should devote more time to plan your progression first, and only then find the scenes required to achieve the climax you clearly seek to create.

    My favorite AMV is Evangelion to the sound of Pixies Where is My Mind. A masterpiece in mood and narration. Look it up.

    6 votes
    1. [5]
      ShuMue
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      Thanks a ton! For the subtitles, it is pretty hard finding clips without them as dubbed clips are usually lower in quality due to copyright or whatever For the Narrative, I do understand that...

      Thanks a ton!

      For the subtitles, it is pretty hard finding clips without them as dubbed clips are usually lower in quality due to copyright or whatever

      For the Narrative, I do understand that claim and it was definitely something I tried to incorporate but found it hard to find clips from multiple animes that are similar enough to put together to create a progression in a thematic arc. That's why you see the characters feeling down on one scene to just straight up action the next. I was making an AMV featuring the themes of One Piece but decided to cut it short as the varying quality of the show was hard to keep up with, but it is something I intend to return to in the future.

      Overall, thank you for your response as it helped me a lot! I will definitely watch the Evangelion AMV and try to keep the things you said in mind. This was my first step into video editing and I did enjoy making this video though which will definitely fuel a passion for more haha.

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      1. mrbig
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        You can find many high quality soft-subbed/raw anime on torrent trackers both private and public. Even on Pirate Bay. Good luck!

        You can find many high quality soft-subbed/raw anime on torrent trackers both private and public. Even on Pirate Bay.

        Good luck!

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      2. [3]
        mrbig
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        Have you tried using the One Piece HD Remaster?

        the varying quality of the show was hard to keep up with

        Have you tried using the One Piece HD Remaster?

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          ShuMue
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          Remaster as in the "Episode of East Blue/Skypeia" specials? If so yes I actually used one of the scenes in this project. Its just that those barely have any content for later in the show before...

          Remaster as in the "Episode of East Blue/Skypeia" specials? If so yes I actually used one of the scenes in this project. Its just that those barely have any content for later in the show before the time skip. Other than that I don't know what you mean.

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          1. mrbig
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            No they redid the entire show in 1080p. It’s exactly the same otherwise.

            No they redid the entire show in 1080p. It’s exactly the same otherwise.

            2 votes
    2. [3]
      VoidOutput
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      Is that the AMV you were thinking of?

      Is that the AMV you were thinking of?

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      1. mrbig
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        Not sure. I don’t think so, the one I knew was much better I think. The date says “14 years ago” but it doesn’t have many views. This AMV was pretty popular. I’ll have to investigate.

        Not sure. I don’t think so, the one I knew was much better I think. The date says “14 years ago” but it doesn’t have many views. This AMV was pretty popular. I’ll have to investigate.

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  2. ShuMue
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    I was debating on putting this in Anime or Hobbies but ended up sticking with hobbies as it might give me a better audience to help me with the editing side. This is the first project I have done...

    I was debating on putting this in Anime or Hobbies but ended up sticking with hobbies as it might give me a better audience to help me with the editing side. This is the first project I have done using Vegas Pro and decided that I want to make an AMV as it it something I am passionate about. Is there anything bad that stands out or just things that could make future projects much better. I do think I need to do better work on transitions and some sort of overlaying filter throughout the video to make it look smoother. I'm not trying to self promote, i'm just looking for advice. Any sort of constructive criticism would be appreciated.

    4 votes
  3. [3]
    CALICO
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    What @mrbig said. About half your cuts felt out of sync with the beat of the music, some of the cuts at your mid-point were best timed. Using clips from a bunch of different shows makes it feel...

    What @mrbig said.

    About half your cuts felt out of sync with the beat of the music, some of the cuts at your mid-point were best timed.
    Using clips from a bunch of different shows makes it feel kind of a hot mess. It's distracting. It's not cohesive, and it has little flow or emotional structure. It's important to very intentionally match a specific source material to a specific song. I didn't feel like the video was made for that song; a bunch of different songs could have fit.
    If a source material doesn't have enough usable shots to fit a chosen song, then pick a different song or a different source material. I do not believe that any media could be effectively adapted to any song. I'm not familiar with Black Clover, so I can't say in the definitive if these are a bad match for each other.

    I once tried making an AMV using Kill la Kill, and Electric Six's Gay Bar. Three-quarters of it worked really, really well, but I couldn't find enough material that was a good fit to complete it. Some shots were appropriate, but were just barely too short to fit without cutting off-beat with the song. Some shots would have been filler that disrupted the flow of visuals and sound.

    So I scrapped it. Some things just won't work.

    I would argue that editing is mostly a feeling, outside of the fundamentals. You develop a taste for what's working and what isn't through trial and error. I don't think there's much of a shortcut to that, other than studying some of the best examples out there, and analyzing them; that is, pay active attention to the song choice, how and where transitions or cuts are made. If you experience an emotional reaction to an AMV, consider how that might have been built into the structure and timing.

    My all-time favorite AMV is RadioAkshun, by Ileia (Evangelion, Radioactive – Imagine Dragons).
    It won Best Action at Anime Boston 2013 (I was there!), and Best Technical, Judges & Audience Best in Show at Sakura-con.
    I think there's a lot that can be learned from it.

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    1. radiator
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      counterpoint: here's an amv that uses many clips from many shows that still works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlFfVaLwRd4 @ShuMue @mrbig you might enjoy this too.

      Using clips from a bunch of different shows makes it feel kind of a hot mess. It's distracting. It's not cohesive, and it has little flow or emotional structure.

      counterpoint: here's an amv that uses many clips from many shows that still works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlFfVaLwRd4

      @ShuMue @mrbig you might enjoy this too.

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    2. ShuMue
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      Yup thank you, I do feel like the choice of song wasn't helping much as most of it was only intended to be hype and no other purpose. I just chose Black Catcher as I really love the opening and...

      Yup thank you,

      I do feel like the choice of song wasn't helping much as most of it was only intended to be hype and no other purpose. I just chose Black Catcher as I really love the opening and just wanted to play around with it. I didn't put my best effort in but I feel like its justified as this is my first video editing project in general haha.

      And in the future, ill use clips from a single show to fit with the thematic and the "feels" part of the edit. I've already got plenty of ideas so I do have flexibility in the future.

      Thanks for your help though! :)

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