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    1. demifiend
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      The difference is irrelevant. If I can't see the impact of my work, then I cannot derive any meaning from it -- which makes it meaningless to me. Yes, it's a subjective measure, but the subjective...

      I think there's a difference between it being difficult to assess your impact on the world and something being truly meaningless.

      The difference is irrelevant. If I can't see the impact of my work, then I cannot derive any meaning from it -- which makes it meaningless to me. Yes, it's a subjective measure, but the subjective value of a job is the only value that matters to the poor schmuck who's stuck doing it.

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    Team_Slacker
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    The sector of industry that I work in, Environmental and Mining consulting certainly feels like this at times. I work for a company who's primary purpose is to do the permitting paperwork for...

    The sector of industry that I work in, Environmental and Mining consulting certainly feels like this at times. I work for a company who's primary purpose is to do the permitting paperwork for mining companies to file with regulators. It feels like we don't DO anything. We don't actually produce anything. We don't offer any oversight. We help them fill out paperwork. Obviously there's a bit more nuance than that, but it's not far from the truth.

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      MimicSquid
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      If they're incompetent to fill out the paperwork on their own, and they can't mine without it, I'd say you're doing something helpful.

      If they're incompetent to fill out the paperwork on their own, and they can't mine without it, I'd say you're doing something helpful.

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        demifiend
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        Not necessarily. If they can't even fill out paperwork, what else can't they do properly? How can we trust such an outfit to follow safety procedures? Why should such a operation's continued...

        Not necessarily. If they can't even fill out paperwork, what else can't they do properly? How can we trust such an outfit to follow safety procedures? Why should such a operation's continued existence be permitted?

        1. MimicSquid
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          The fact that they need assistance with one task (like complying with govt. documentation efforts) does not have any connection or relevance to their ability to do another thing (like mining and...

          The fact that they need assistance with one task (like complying with govt. documentation efforts) does not have any connection or relevance to their ability to do another thing (like mining and shipping ore).

          Would you like me to assume that because you can't do one thing you're incompetent to do other unrelated tasks?

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        2. yellow
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          As far as society at large is concerned, there isn't a real difference between you working at mining firm filling out paper and working at a consulting firm filling out paper for the mining firm....

          As far as society at large is concerned, there isn't a real difference between you working at mining firm filling out paper and working at a consulting firm filling out paper for the mining firm. I suppose this way its easier to re-assign your job between mining firms as the need arises, but most of the reasons are just complicated legal differences and the way things just happened to occur (maybe the best organizer of form filling available started their own business instead of getting hired). Just because your particular company doesn't produce an end consumer product doesn't mean its worthless. That's like saying a job making fertilizer is useless because "No one eats fertilizer, its just for the farms. Why can't they make their own fertilizer? Does this mean the farms are inept?"

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    I really feel I can post without even reading the article. Automation, Automation, Automation. Everything is going to be taken over by AI and we in the USA are going to need a very robust basic...

    I really feel I can post without even reading the article. Automation, Automation, Automation. Everything is going to be taken over by AI and we in the USA are going to need a very robust basic income plan.

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    1. demifiend
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      And we aren't going to get one. Republicans are hostile to giving money to people who don't already have more than they can possibly spend, and Democrats don't give a shit about us until about 6...

      I really feel I can post without even reading the article. Automation, Automation, Automation. Everything is going to be taken over by AI and we in the USA are going to need a very robust basic income plan.

      And we aren't going to get one. Republicans are hostile to giving money to people who don't already have more than they can possibly spend, and Democrats don't give a shit about us until about 6 months before Election Day.