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All About Pete Buttigieg

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  1. [4]
    Leonidas
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    This is an older article from back in March, but someone recommended it to me and it's extremely comprehensive and insightful IMO. A bit of a long read, but it really comes together with all its...

    This is an older article from back in March, but someone recommended it to me and it's extremely comprehensive and insightful IMO. A bit of a long read, but it really comes together with all its observations at the end.

    6 votes
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      Loire
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      I believe this was brought up in one of Alyaza's weekly politics threads back when it was written. It was how Current Affairs got on my radar at least. Still might be good for those members who...

      I believe this was brought up in one of Alyaza's weekly politics threads back when it was written. It was how Current Affairs got on my radar at least. Still might be good for those members who weren't arpund back then.

      2 votes
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        Leonidas
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        Oh, that's funny. I only joined back in August so I assume it was before that?

        Oh, that's funny. I only joined back in August so I assume it was before that?

        1 vote
        1. Loire
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          Oh ya, long before that. I'm pretty sure Alyaza was banned before August too, we haven't had her weekly threqds since July.

          Oh ya, long before that. I'm pretty sure Alyaza was banned before August too, we haven't had her weekly threqds since July.

          2 votes
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    Silbern
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    Ah, I remember this article. It's extremely long and I'm not smart or knowledgeable enough to contribute anything myself, but I also remember a rebuttal to it that might also be worth reading.

    Ah, I remember this article. It's extremely long and I'm not smart or knowledgeable enough to contribute anything myself, but I also remember a rebuttal to it that might also be worth reading.

    5 votes
    1. Leonidas
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      That's interesting, thanks for sharing. However, it doesn't really get into the meat of Robinson's argument that Buttigieg has repeatedly shown that the only reason he's interested in public...

      That's interesting, thanks for sharing. However, it doesn't really get into the meat of Robinson's argument that Buttigieg has repeatedly shown that the only reason he's interested in public office, as with many of his touted accomplishments, is out of a self-centered belief that he is the only one who can do it. (I may be oversimplifying the original article here.) Jesse also missed the point with Robinson's criticism of why Buttigieg chose the essay subject he did and the thought process he went through--namely, that it was based on his own desire to stand out rather than any sincere expression of values. Still, it was a worthwhile read.

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    2. thundergolfer
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      A couple of rebuttal's in that are good, so it's worth reading, but at least half of them don't land. Like @Leonidas said, the rebuttal write doesn't get the 'Bernie essay thing', but I think for...

      A couple of rebuttal's in that are good, so it's worth reading, but at least half of them don't land.

      Like @Leonidas said, the rebuttal write doesn't get the 'Bernie essay thing', but I think for an additional reason.

      When Buttgieg writes the things like this, “[he] came by his values honestly.” you can notice that he uses the same substance-free language that he continues with in Political life. He doesn't seem to care so much what Bernie's values are but how he "came by" them and how he engaged with those values. Buttigieg doesn't distinguish between good values and bad values because that would involve taking much more of a stand on things.

      You could see Buttigieg saying the same thing about an evangelical. "Jerry Falwell Jr and I have our differences, but he comes by his values honestly, and I really appreciate that he's totally transparent and relentless about his values".

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  3. thundergolfer
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    Man this was long but it's fantastic. Nathan Robinson is such a good voice of the left.

    Man this was long but it's fantastic. Nathan Robinson is such a good voice of the left.

    2 votes
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