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    vord
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    This is shameful. This endless lust for profits is literally killing people. I'm thinking we need a new rule: All management must log at least 500 hours of highway driving time in any new model...

    This is shameful. This endless lust for profits is literally killing people.

    I'm thinking we need a new rule: All management must log at least 500 hours of highway driving time in any new model before it gets released to the public.

    Maybe then they'll think twice before trying to silence their engineers who raise concerns.

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      asoftbird
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      That's nothing new though. Recall the infamous Ford Pinto accidents and lawsuits? In short, accidents and injury are okay if they're not too expensive.

      This is shameful. This endless lust for profits is literally killing people.

      That's nothing new though.
      Recall the infamous Ford Pinto accidents and lawsuits?

      (...) It was estimated that making the change would result in a total of 180 less burn deaths, 180 less serious burn injuries, and 2,100 less burned vehicles. (...)

      (...) The risk,/benefit results indicate that it is acceptable for 180 people to die and 180 people to burn if it costs $11 per vehicle to prevent such casualty rates. (...)

      In short, accidents and injury are okay if they're not too expensive.

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      1. vord
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        Might not be new, but it's certainly getting worse and expanding to other areas. I would also argue that it's not any less shameful...if not more-so that it has been going on for a long time. If...

        Might not be new, but it's certainly getting worse and expanding to other areas. I would also argue that it's not any less shameful...if not more-so that it has been going on for a long time.

        If companies keep doing this, it's obvious that the punishments are not severe enough. Perhaps fees should be more in line with "10% of net revenue for each year the company profited from selling the dangerous product." Some quick napkin math for that suggests a minimum fine of $13,560,500,000 to Ford for this DPS6 transmission.

        Sounds like a lot of money, until you realize that Ford has $37,331,000,000 cash reserves as of Sept 2019.

        If anybody comes to argue this with logic like "But fines that high will eventually destroy the companies involved," save your breath. That's the whole point.

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