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The National Security Agency said it collected more domestic call records than allowed, and as a result has been mass-deleting call records

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    tan Link
    I found it interesting that the EFF is requiring the NSA to keep years of records, when the EFF would rather that they weren't collected in the first place.

    I found it interesting that the EFF is requiring the NSA to keep years of records, when the EFF would rather that they weren't collected in the first place.

    The EFF has court orders preventing the NSA from deleting vast swaths of data, including five years worth of dragnet call record data spanning 2010 to 2015. That data must be stored in non-searchable form, pursuant to surveillance court orders. EFF views data preservation as necessary to prove alleged violations of the Fourth Amendment.

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      deadaluspark Link Parent
      Maybe because if they mass delete the stuff they weren't supposed to collect, afterwards, you're left with no evidence that they ever collected it. I'd say that having evidence of wrongdoing is...

      Maybe because if they mass delete the stuff they weren't supposed to collect, afterwards, you're left with no evidence that they ever collected it.

      I'd say that having evidence of wrongdoing is pretty important in preventing further wrongdoing, whereas deleting all evidence of wrongdoing would be more likely to allow similar wrongdoing in the future, simply because no one had any "evidence" that it had happened before and was any kind of problem.

      When generally unaccountable government agencies want to go around deleting all evidence of wrongdoing, you bet your ass you better be forcing them to keep copies so we can prevent this sort of thing in the future.

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      1. tan Link Parent
        Yeah, absolutely, I just thought it was kind of funny (as funny as a huge abuse of power can be)

        Yeah, absolutely, I just thought it was kind of funny (as funny as a huge abuse of power can be)

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