I don't know what you'd even call it at this point. The guy obviously is very old and lived with what he did under a lie. nazi criminals out of circulation 1 out of millions? This article, which I...
I don't know what you'd even call it at this point. The guy obviously is very old and lived with what he did under a lie. nazi criminals out of circulation 1 out of millions? This article, which I admit couldn't finish is bringing tears to my eyes on the suffering that took place. WW2 just makes me so sad that people like him got asylum in places like argentina. I don't know what the point of this is. I'll read the rest of it.
Yeah, I found this interesting because on the one hand it's very simple - what he did was wrong and evil - and on the other hand it's complicated without an obvious answer - what do you do with...
Yeah, I found this interesting because on the one hand it's very simple - what he did was wrong and evil - and on the other hand it's complicated without an obvious answer - what do you do with him now?
He was first tracked down in the US in 1993. It took another 10 years before he was stripped of his US citizenship, and now it's taken an additional 15 years for him to be actually deported.
He's 95. You can lock him up in prison for the rest of his life, but at his age prison is likely to be just a high-security nursing home, especially in Germany where the prison system tends to be much more humane than in the US. I honestly don't know what should be done with him.
it just feels... inadequate. don't get me wrong, I'm not for death penalty or an eye for an eye approach, but putting him in prison isn't even a punishment at this point, nor is it a chance for...
it just feels... inadequate. don't get me wrong, I'm not for death penalty or an eye for an eye approach, but putting him in prison isn't even a punishment at this point, nor is it a chance for rehabilitation. he's already lived his life, and has, what, 2-3 years left? maybe a bit more, maybe much less than that.
I get where you're coming from. It feels so weird because he got away with it. He deserves punishment, he deserves not to have lived the past 70 years of his life comfortably, he deserve to have...
I get where you're coming from. It feels so weird because he got away with it. He deserves punishment, he deserves not to have lived the past 70 years of his life comfortably, he deserve to have spent them all in prison, but he robbed society and evaded that. Now it's just too late for us to take it back so there's no satisfying answer to the question "what now?"
It sort of shines a light on the fact that most punishments we have for crimes are so people can satisfy their anger over the crime, not so much to try and change the person that commits the...
It sort of shines a light on the fact that most punishments we have for crimes are so people can satisfy their anger over the crime, not so much to try and change the person that commits the crime. We want to force people who commit crimes to feel the kind of pain that we feel. The concept of justice is kind of weird.
There was a great Black Mirror episode like that. SPOILER
fair point and I agree wholeheartedly with you, but at 95 there's not much you could do to change a person, either. the most you could hope for would be, I dunno, some sort of a public statement...
fair point and I agree wholeheartedly with you, but at 95 there's not much you could do to change a person, either. the most you could hope for would be, I dunno, some sort of a public statement along the lines of "I really fucked up, and you all young people who believe in one race being better than others are idiots".
you worded my own thoughts better than I could :) the best I could come up with is to make sure that he realizes to the full extent what he contributed to, but how would you even do that? hold his...
you worded my own thoughts better than I could :)
the best I could come up with is to make sure that he realizes to the full extent what he contributed to, but how would you even do that? hold his eyes open and force him to watch videos about the atrocities of WWII 24/7? hook up his brain with cables and check if he secrets regretine?
I guess real life isn't a superhero movie, and the bad guys manage to completely avoid the consequences sometimes.
I don't know what you'd even call it at this point. The guy obviously is very old and lived with what he did under a lie. nazi criminals out of circulation 1 out of millions? This article, which I admit couldn't finish is bringing tears to my eyes on the suffering that took place. WW2 just makes me so sad that people like him got asylum in places like argentina. I don't know what the point of this is. I'll read the rest of it.
Yeah, I found this interesting because on the one hand it's very simple - what he did was wrong and evil - and on the other hand it's complicated without an obvious answer - what do you do with him now?
He was first tracked down in the US in 1993. It took another 10 years before he was stripped of his US citizenship, and now it's taken an additional 15 years for him to be actually deported.
He's 95. You can lock him up in prison for the rest of his life, but at his age prison is likely to be just a high-security nursing home, especially in Germany where the prison system tends to be much more humane than in the US. I honestly don't know what should be done with him.
it just feels... inadequate. don't get me wrong, I'm not for death penalty or an eye for an eye approach, but putting him in prison isn't even a punishment at this point, nor is it a chance for rehabilitation. he's already lived his life, and has, what, 2-3 years left? maybe a bit more, maybe much less than that.
I get where you're coming from. It feels so weird because he got away with it. He deserves punishment, he deserves not to have lived the past 70 years of his life comfortably, he deserve to have spent them all in prison, but he robbed society and evaded that. Now it's just too late for us to take it back so there's no satisfying answer to the question "what now?"
It sort of shines a light on the fact that most punishments we have for crimes are so people can satisfy their anger over the crime, not so much to try and change the person that commits the crime. We want to force people who commit crimes to feel the kind of pain that we feel. The concept of justice is kind of weird.
There was a great Black Mirror episode like that. SPOILER
fair point and I agree wholeheartedly with you, but at 95 there's not much you could do to change a person, either. the most you could hope for would be, I dunno, some sort of a public statement along the lines of "I really fucked up, and you all young people who believe in one race being better than others are idiots".
you worded my own thoughts better than I could :)
the best I could come up with is to make sure that he realizes to the full extent what he contributed to, but how would you even do that? hold his eyes open and force him to watch videos about the atrocities of WWII 24/7? hook up his brain with cables and check if he secrets regretine?
I guess real life isn't a superhero movie, and the bad guys manage to completely avoid the consequences sometimes.