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    somewaffles
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    Wow, this makes me really happy. I can see a lot of people getting upset with something like this in the US. Are those numbers in Norway as insane as I think they are?

    Wow, this makes me really happy. I can see a lot of people getting upset with something like this in the US.

    In 2017, EV sales represented just 0.4% of the market, while Sweden and Norway registered 5.3% and 39%.

    Are those numbers in Norway as insane as I think they are?

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      1. JuniperMonkeys
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        In addition, internal combustion vehicles are also taxed extremely heavily in Norway (both in purchase and ownership costs), whereas electrics are not. The tax on high-output vehicles has been...

        In addition, internal combustion vehicles are also taxed extremely heavily in Norway (both in purchase and ownership costs), whereas electrics are not. The tax on high-output vehicles has been reduced in recent years, but still you can pay 100% more for an internal combustion car in Norway than in surrounding countries. Due to tax on the latter, the E-Golf (Norway's best-selling car for 2017) costs just about the same in Norway as a Golf 1.2 that is something like half its price in the UK.

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  2. nsz
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    I hope they don't ban the second hand car market, there is nothing ecological about scrapping functioning vehicles. I would be interested if their have been studies estimating the co2 produced in...

    I hope they don't ban the second hand car market, there is nothing ecological about scrapping functioning vehicles. I would be interested if their have been studies estimating the co2 produced in manufacturing an electric - and if that number is lower then the co2 a second hand car will make until it's out of service.

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  3. eyehigh
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    Props to them, but it's sad that it's a lot easier to implement eco-friendly policies in the smaller nations than it is elsewhere. If it takes them that many years to ban fossil fuel vehicles from...

    Props to them, but it's sad that it's a lot easier to implement eco-friendly policies in the smaller nations than it is elsewhere. If it takes them that many years to ban fossil fuel vehicles from the already advanced position they're in, imagine how much longer the poorer, more populous countries will take. These are the countries whose efforts really matter, because I think Denmark's 5 million aren't putting out as much pollution as, say, Egypt's 100 million.

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  4. StellarV
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    12 years seems a bit too long of a wait, I'm sure they can get the infrastructure in place in half that time, but I guess it's good they have a timetable at the very least.

    12 years seems a bit too long of a wait, I'm sure they can get the infrastructure in place in half that time, but I guess it's good they have a timetable at the very least.

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    OzPoider
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    Tiny little countries can do this, I suppose. Doesn't mean they are role models for other countries. It's a 3 days drive from Perth to Sydney here in Australia. Best of luck doing that in an...

    Tiny little countries can do this, I suppose.

    Doesn't mean they are role models for other countries.

    It's a 3 days drive from Perth to Sydney here in Australia. Best of luck doing that in an electric vehicle having to recharge it so often.

    Let alone those of us who do 4wding trips in the desert along iconic routes like the Simpson Desert. Canning Stock Route, Cape York, Gibb River Road, Gunbarrel Highway to name a few. Some I have done. Some are on my bucket list in the future, in my diesel powered 4wd.

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        OzPoider
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        Size itself definitely is an issue. The eastern seaboard of Australia has probably 75% of our population, and it's a solid 20 hour drive between Brisbane and Melbourne (1650km) and there's tens of...

        Size itself definitely is an issue. The eastern seaboard of Australia has probably 75% of our population, and it's a solid 20 hour drive between Brisbane and Melbourne (1650km) and there's tens of thousands of vehicles travelling between both every single day.

        As long as battery technology continues to mature and improve, as range is a show stopper for large countries.

        1. Catt
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          But how often does a single vehicle make a trip like that, I wonder. I live in Canada and definitely agree it's a different challenge to ban petrol vehicles in countries that are more spread out....

          But how often does a single vehicle make a trip like that, I wonder.

          I live in Canada and definitely agree it's a different challenge to ban petrol vehicles in countries that are more spread out. Still I don't think a ban is out of the question even here.

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