I expect to see more and more of this as world conditions deteriorate, economically, financially, and environmentally. People are angry. Quality of life is actually declining in many countries....
I expect to see more and more of this as world conditions deteriorate, economically, financially, and environmentally. People are angry. Quality of life is actually declining in many countries. Yet, hate breeds hate; and these people have been indoctrinated to believe that the problem is the other people. The immigrants. The feminists. Anyone who doesn't think like you. Those who want to change your way of life. They're taking your jobs. They're limiting your speech.
It's amazing really. A small base of radical, influential people in news & politics has successfully convinced a large portion of the western population that the problem the average person faces is caused by another average person. These people are either too dense or too far gone to realise the reason they have no jobs, the reason things cost so much is because the 1% at the top are increasingly keeping & hoarding money for themselves.
I don't mean to sound alarmist, but I now genuinely believe humanity is essentially in decline, and I find it hard to see how we can recover.
Don't be that hopeless. This generation is different IMHO. Here in Istanbul, Ekrem Imamoglu, the opposition mayoral candidate, is really killing it with a calm, all-embracing stance. The...
Don't be that hopeless. This generation is different IMHO. Here in Istanbul, Ekrem Imamoglu, the opposition mayoral candidate, is really killing it with a calm, all-embracing stance. The opposition has triumphed in Turkey, yeah numbers tell "almost", but that has happened without a level playground. And now we'll have re-elections in Istanbul, and everybody's certain Imamoglu will prevail. Gaining Istanbul means gaining Turkey for many reasons.
The reason I tell this story is: it seems that a huge corrupt kleptocracy is slowly falling, before the might of sincerity and honesty. For me, while I don't expect the situation to leap forward very quickly, these series of events, if you follow recent politics in Turkey, mean that it is totally possible to confront evil with good, when it is truly good. Macron is not truly good. Hillary Clinton was not either. So they failed or are estimated to fail before evil. But there should be hope.
I think when you integrate climate change, phosphorus depletion, biodiversity loss, sea level rise and extreme weather events into the equation, it's actually more hopeless than you're letting on....
I think when you integrate climate change, phosphorus depletion, biodiversity loss, sea level rise and extreme weather events into the equation, it's actually more hopeless than you're letting on. Your points cover purely political discourse; and ignore ecological issues which have run-on effects on civilization, and consequently, political discourse. For example, we're going to see refugees en-masse when low lying regions of the world are inundated and unlivable. Where are these people going to go?
This isn't even limited to third world countries. Florida. New York. Louisiana. Parts of Europe. All of these are either sinking or in some cases below sea level already. Who's going to pay for the cleanup and shifting of entire cities following the next big storm surge or hurricane (which are only becoming more frequent)? Because it sure isn't going to be wealthy people. This will feed back into political discourse and only inflame the alt-right faction-based machine. It isn't bad yet, but it's going to be very bad.
I’d say our bigger problem is that the moderates aren’t disappearing. They’re sticking around and trying to blunt calls for change and preserving the toxic environment that allows these fascists...
I’d say our bigger problem is that the moderates aren’t disappearing. They’re sticking around and trying to blunt calls for change and preserving the toxic environment that allows these fascists to grow.
They’re deflating the momentum and need for bold action by watering things down to uncompelling, wishy washy, political theater to avoid threatening the status quo.
the problem with this line of thinking is that "inevitably" is not soon enough for a lot of these issues, they're things we need to be doing yesterday. we don't have the luxury of waiting until...
We will inevitably get our (Green) New Deal. The wave is already in motion and no matter how much the Biden's try to dull it, it will crash ashore. The population is invigorated and green energy is already taking over as the economical option.
the problem with this line of thinking is that "inevitably" is not soon enough for a lot of these issues, they're things we need to be doing yesterday. we don't have the luxury of waiting until "inevitably" green energy is more economical, for example. we have like, a decade to completely reshape the fabric of our society and our economy; the current track we're on is still over 3C of warming, and potentially more given that many of our projections on things like climate change are usually optimistic about how much things have progressed. moderation on issues like this dooms tens of millions of people to certain death, hundreds of millions to permanent movement, and the planet to irreversible change.
I'm not sure if we do, I'll have a look. I've thought about it in the past though, and it's a feature that I'm a little conflicted about. It's good if it saves people from mistakes like this, but...
I'm not sure if we do, I'll have a look. I've thought about it in the past though, and it's a feature that I'm a little conflicted about. It's good if it saves people from mistakes like this, but I can also imagine it being really unwanted when someone deliberately leaves the page to throw a comment away, and then they come back to the thread later and the comment gets brought back.
Wouldn't help in this situation. I'm under the impression chrome has this feature natively, by the way. Is it just Firefox missing it? I think GitHub might be doing something like this too.
Wouldn't help in this situation. I'm under the impression chrome has this feature natively, by the way. Is it just Firefox missing it?
I think GitHub might be doing something like this too.
They did, but from what I’ve read the radicals in the past had a lot more power and influence than they do today. Moderates talk about guys like Bernie Sanders or Jeremy Corbyn as if they’re the...
wasn't there so I cant know for sure, but I imagine our 1930's peers felt the same way about moderates during their time.
They did, but from what I’ve read the radicals in the past had a lot more power and influence than they do today. Moderates talk about guys like Bernie Sanders or Jeremy Corbyn as if they’re the second coming Lenin, but where are the unions, the workers councils, the armed revolutionaries in the streets to push them anywhere?
We see lots of this stuff on the Right, but the centrists are so eager to “both sides” the issue that they pretend random histrionic activists on Twitter are analogous.
This does two things. One is that it discredits even fairly moderate and realistic reformers, like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, as crazy fantasists. Two is that it creates a one-way ratchet. The Right wing keeps getting bolder and more aggressive and there is no concomitant check from the other side.
Atleast from what I've seen in germany exit polls, it's not as hopeless. The conservative and right-wing parties don't earn a lot of points from young voters, they get their major shares from...
Atleast from what I've seen in germany exit polls, it's not as hopeless. The conservative and right-wing parties don't earn a lot of points from young voters, they get their major shares from reactionary people of higher ages. The young voters have moved to the green parties
The issue is, as a party in germany dubbed it, "Letztwähler", or "last time voters" in english. Older people who vote but have almost no chance to feel the long term impacts of their decision.
What a ridiculously shallow analysis. First of all, this a European election. That Macron or Le Pen gets one percent more than the other in France makes absolutely no difference. Second, if you...
What a ridiculously shallow analysis.
First of all, this a European election. That Macron or Le Pen gets one percent more than the other in France makes absolutely no difference.
Second, if you really want to look at the national level, there are much more interesting things to notice:
Great score, far above what was predicted for the green party
A terrible defeat for the right. This should be the end for the current nationalism/conservative on social values strategy
Macron is pretty high considering we just had 6 months of social unrest. Effect on the polls: essentially zero.
Yeah this is the correct read. Macron is doing far better than I thought and this was pretty narrow. The problem we face in France is that the far right is one of the only unified parties. We...
Yeah this is the correct read. Macron is doing far better than I thought and this was pretty narrow.
The problem we face in France is that the far right is one of the only unified parties. We thankfully do not have a two party system, which means that when a party unifies strongly they can easily get to the small majority. This is how Macron won in the first place; his party ended up with two thirds of the French parliament it's pretty nuts.
I don't agree with his execution or process but I'm pretty proud of having him as president. He's provided the country with a message of unification, and he strongly believes in Europe, in a time where both of those things are hard to come by.
to say nothing of the fact that when push comes to shove people actually really hate le pen, far moreso than macron even though the two poll similarly with the electorate. she really only does...
to say nothing of the fact that when push comes to shove people actually really hate le pen, far moreso than macron even though the two poll similarly with the electorate. she really only does "good" when people are able to vote for a plethora of parties because in a split field, her base is decently large and consolidated; when those choices winnow, though people will stampede toward whoever's leading the way over le pen and give them a 30 point win like macron got in 2017 even if they also hate that person, because she has literally no crossover appeal and, for most intents and purposes, is most of the french right at this point because her math happens to work out well in split fields.
I expect to see more and more of this as world conditions deteriorate, economically, financially, and environmentally. People are angry. Quality of life is actually declining in many countries. Yet, hate breeds hate; and these people have been indoctrinated to believe that the problem is the other people. The immigrants. The feminists. Anyone who doesn't think like you. Those who want to change your way of life. They're taking your jobs. They're limiting your speech.
It's amazing really. A small base of radical, influential people in news & politics has successfully convinced a large portion of the western population that the problem the average person faces is caused by another average person. These people are either too dense or too far gone to realise the reason they have no jobs, the reason things cost so much is because the 1% at the top are increasingly keeping & hoarding money for themselves.
I don't mean to sound alarmist, but I now genuinely believe humanity is essentially in decline, and I find it hard to see how we can recover.
Don't be that hopeless. This generation is different IMHO. Here in Istanbul, Ekrem Imamoglu, the opposition mayoral candidate, is really killing it with a calm, all-embracing stance. The opposition has triumphed in Turkey, yeah numbers tell "almost", but that has happened without a level playground. And now we'll have re-elections in Istanbul, and everybody's certain Imamoglu will prevail. Gaining Istanbul means gaining Turkey for many reasons.
The reason I tell this story is: it seems that a huge corrupt kleptocracy is slowly falling, before the might of sincerity and honesty. For me, while I don't expect the situation to leap forward very quickly, these series of events, if you follow recent politics in Turkey, mean that it is totally possible to confront evil with good, when it is truly good. Macron is not truly good. Hillary Clinton was not either. So they failed or are estimated to fail before evil. But there should be hope.
I think when you integrate climate change, phosphorus depletion, biodiversity loss, sea level rise and extreme weather events into the equation, it's actually more hopeless than you're letting on. Your points cover purely political discourse; and ignore ecological issues which have run-on effects on civilization, and consequently, political discourse. For example, we're going to see refugees en-masse when low lying regions of the world are inundated and unlivable. Where are these people going to go?
This isn't even limited to third world countries. Florida. New York. Louisiana. Parts of Europe. All of these are either sinking or in some cases below sea level already. Who's going to pay for the cleanup and shifting of entire cities following the next big storm surge or hurricane (which are only becoming more frequent)? Because it sure isn't going to be wealthy people. This will feed back into political discourse and only inflame the alt-right faction-based machine. It isn't bad yet, but it's going to be very bad.
Shall we cut wrists?
I’d say our bigger problem is that the moderates aren’t disappearing. They’re sticking around and trying to blunt calls for change and preserving the toxic environment that allows these fascists to grow.
They’re deflating the momentum and need for bold action by watering things down to uncompelling, wishy washy, political theater to avoid threatening the status quo.
the problem with this line of thinking is that "inevitably" is not soon enough for a lot of these issues, they're things we need to be doing yesterday. we don't have the luxury of waiting until "inevitably" green energy is more economical, for example. we have like, a decade to completely reshape the fabric of our society and our economy; the current track we're on is still over 3C of warming, and potentially more given that many of our projections on things like climate change are usually optimistic about how much things have progressed. moderation on issues like this dooms tens of millions of people to certain death, hundreds of millions to permanent movement, and the planet to irreversible change.
Completely, 100% offtopic. @Deimos and excellent repo maintainers, do we have an issue open for draft comment LocalStorage? :)
I'm not sure if we do, I'll have a look. I've thought about it in the past though, and it's a feature that I'm a little conflicted about. It's good if it saves people from mistakes like this, but I can also imagine it being really unwanted when someone deliberately leaves the page to throw a comment away, and then they come back to the thread later and the comment gets brought back.
That's a reasonable hesitation. Perhaps we could hook into the
window.beforeunloadevent to provide the nuance you're looking for here?Wouldn't help in this situation. I'm under the impression chrome has this feature natively, by the way. Is it just Firefox missing it?
I think GitHub might be doing something like this too.
you could always hide it behind a "restore draft" button.
If an extra addon won't bloat your profile, try Form History Control.
gist :)
They did, but from what I’ve read the radicals in the past had a lot more power and influence than they do today. Moderates talk about guys like Bernie Sanders or Jeremy Corbyn as if they’re the second coming Lenin, but where are the unions, the workers councils, the armed revolutionaries in the streets to push them anywhere?
We see lots of this stuff on the Right, but the centrists are so eager to “both sides” the issue that they pretend random histrionic activists on Twitter are analogous.
This does two things. One is that it discredits even fairly moderate and realistic reformers, like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, as crazy fantasists. Two is that it creates a one-way ratchet. The Right wing keeps getting bolder and more aggressive and there is no concomitant check from the other side.
Atleast from what I've seen in germany exit polls, it's not as hopeless. The conservative and right-wing parties don't earn a lot of points from young voters, they get their major shares from reactionary people of higher ages. The young voters have moved to the green parties
The issue is, as a party in germany dubbed it, "Letztwähler", or "last time voters" in english. Older people who vote but have almost no chance to feel the long term impacts of their decision.
What a ridiculously shallow analysis.
First of all, this a European election. That Macron or Le Pen gets one percent more than the other in France makes absolutely no difference.
Second, if you really want to look at the national level, there are much more interesting things to notice:
Yeah this is the correct read. Macron is doing far better than I thought and this was pretty narrow.
The problem we face in France is that the far right is one of the only unified parties. We thankfully do not have a two party system, which means that when a party unifies strongly they can easily get to the small majority. This is how Macron won in the first place; his party ended up with two thirds of the French parliament it's pretty nuts.
I don't agree with his execution or process but I'm pretty proud of having him as president. He's provided the country with a message of unification, and he strongly believes in Europe, in a time where both of those things are hard to come by.
to say nothing of the fact that when push comes to shove people actually really hate le pen, far moreso than macron even though the two poll similarly with the electorate. she really only does "good" when people are able to vote for a plethora of parties because in a split field, her base is decently large and consolidated; when those choices winnow, though people will stampede toward whoever's leading the way over le pen and give them a 30 point win like macron got in 2017 even if they also hate that person, because she has literally no crossover appeal and, for most intents and purposes, is most of the french right at this point because her math happens to work out well in split fields.
Far-right surge as the Greens make a surprise entrance while the Centre-Right and more mild conservatives are disappointed.