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Florida Sheriff's office now notifying people it will be inflicting its 'Pre-Crime Program' on them

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  1. mat
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    As ever, the gulf between theory and implementation is what ruins this. In theory, using big data to help identify society's most vulnerable and help them get into a position to be able to make...

    As ever, the gulf between theory and implementation is what ruins this. In theory, using big data to help identify society's most vulnerable and help them get into a position to be able to make better choices is a great idea. For example, if data suggests people in X postcode with Y or more kids are likely to commit crimes then let's go to that postcode and make sure there are good daycare options and after school programmes, or education programmes or easily accessible libraries or whatever the data also suggests helps people. In theory, this sounds like a great way to make sure limited resources are spent in the most useful way.

    But - while I am sure there are some cops in Florida who do genuinely want to help their communities be better and not simply pre-criminalise innocent people - they don't seem to be the ones running this program.

    12 votes
  2. drannex
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    This article from the Tampa Bay Times goes into more harrowing details

    Last year, a Tampa Bay Times investigation revealed that the Sheriff’s Office creates lists of people it considers likely to break the law based on criminal histories, social networks and other unspecified intelligence. The agency sends deputies to their homes repeatedly, often without a search warrant or probable cause for an arrest.

    The Times also found that the agency has a separate program that uses schoolchildren’s grades, attendance records and abuse histories to label them potential future criminals.

    Earlier this year, Sheriff Chris Nocco and the Pasco County school district announced they would scale back some features of the school-data program. But the letter signals a broadening of the core program

    This article from the Tampa Bay Times goes into more harrowing details

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    joplin
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    This is such a shitty move by the sheriff’s department. This is pretty much the exact opposite of their job. It would be like a doctor intentionally infecting people with COVID at this point. I...

    This is such a shitty move by the sheriff’s department. This is pretty much the exact opposite of their job. It would be like a doctor intentionally infecting people with COVID at this point. I hope he ends up in jail for this at some point.

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      mat
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      Preventative policing is (or should be) a large part of the police's job. It should be like a doctor screening for various diseases which can be treated more effectively when caught early. That...

      Preventative policing is (or should be) a large part of the police's job. It should be like a doctor screening for various diseases which can be treated more effectively when caught early.

      That these particular cops are doing it horribly wrong doesn't make the idea of preventative policing wrong.

      9 votes
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        joplin
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        I totally agree. What I'm trying to say is that this isn't preventative policing. This is outright harassment.

        I totally agree. What I'm trying to say is that this isn't preventative policing. This is outright harassment.

        5 votes
        1. mat
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          Ah, my apologies, I misunderstood your comment.

          Ah, my apologies, I misunderstood your comment.

          3 votes