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Jan 6th rioter refuses US President Donald Trump's pardon

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  1. Asinine
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    I wish more people had the clarity this alcoholic was able to experience.

    Once I was outside the building I started talking with this random gentleman, and he's like, 'I heard people are getting in there.' And I was like, 'Oh, they're in there. It's theirs.' And I started chatting with him and he said, 'They're shooting people, too.' And I was like, 'No, they're not. It's a joke. I was just in there. It's a party. They're drinking and they're vandalizing, but no one's getting shot.' And he was like, 'No, someone got shot in the neck. I saw her get brought out.'

    [That was] Ashli Babbitt, the woman who was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer.

    Yes. That's the moment it all changed. I was like, 'Oh my God. All right, I did something.' And all that jubilation and all the immaturity, it all turned into fear.

    I wish more people had the clarity this alcoholic was able to experience.

    34 votes
  2. Plik
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    That made a lot of shit make way more sense. Kinda knew it already, but seeing someone admit it hits harder.

    The less I had a life, the louder I was about being a Trump supporter.

    That made a lot of shit make way more sense. Kinda knew it already, but seeing someone admit it hits harder.

    23 votes
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    donn
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    IMO he should just take the pardon. Him staying in jail doesn't affect the fact that 1499 people who have no regrets about participating are out on the streets, and he can atone better outside of...

    IMO he should just take the pardon. Him staying in jail doesn't affect the fact that 1499 people who have no regrets about participating are out on the streets, and he can atone better outside of jail.

    5 votes
    1. [2]
      psi
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      He already served his time (and I think this is true for the majority of the Jan 6ers). The pardon would only serve to expunge the conviction from his record. Edit: good catch! Misdemeanor, not...

      He already served his time (and I think this is true for the majority of the Jan 6ers). The pardon would only serve to expunge the felony conviction from his record.

      Edit: good catch! Misdemeanor, not felony.

      8 votes
      1. donn
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        Well, this particular person has a misdemeanor but fair enough, this makes sense:

        Well, this particular person has a misdemeanor but fair enough, this makes sense:

        And I did reject the pardon because I'm thinking down the road [if] an employer looks in my background, they see misdemeanors... Misdemeanors with a presidential pardon — I think that tends to draw more attention.

        7 votes