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US woman charged with fetal homicide after allegedly inducing own abortion

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    donn
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    Oh, screw HIPAA and doctor-patient confidentiality I guess. And these same people would yell bloody murder if confessional privilege is ever challenged.

    Kentucky police reportedly got involved in Spencer’s case after Spencer talked about her pregnancy to clinic staffers.

    Oh, screw HIPAA and doctor-patient confidentiality I guess. And these same people would yell bloody murder if confessional privilege is ever challenged.

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      DefinitelyNotAFae
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      This comes about from laws requiring reporting of gunshot wounds, stabbings, suspected homicide, etc. to local police. It was always going to be used this way in a post Dobbs world.

      This comes about from laws requiring reporting of gunshot wounds, stabbings, suspected homicide, etc. to local police.

      It was always going to be used this way in a post Dobbs world.

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        donn
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        That makes twisted sense… so it goes back down to whether states think fetuses are persons or not. Still, idk. The entire reason that some communications are privileged is that...

        That makes twisted sense… so it goes back down to whether states think fetuses are persons or not.

        Still, idk. The entire reason that some communications are privileged is that priests/therapists/physicians/lawyers can't do their job if the client doesn't share everything even if it's illegal. If someone's showing up to the ER with gunshot wounds that's not exactly communicated in confidence but if someone asks about potential health complications of terminating a pregnancy that's entirely in confidence…

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        1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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          Believe me, I'm not justifying it, it was just the inevitable horrible outcome.

          Believe me, I'm not justifying it, it was just the inevitable horrible outcome.

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  2. DefinitelyNotAFae
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    This is only continuing to get worse.

    Kentucky state police arrested the woman, Melinda S Spencer, 35, on charges of fetal homicide in the first degree, abuse of a corpse and tampering with physical evidence, according to a local Kentucky news outlet. Spencer reportedly ordered medication online to end her pregnancy, then buried the remains of her pregnancy in her backyard.

    Kentucky bans doctors from performing abortions any time after conception. However, like the vast majority of states, Kentucky does not outlaw people from inducing – or “self-managing” – their own abortions. Medical experts also widely agree that it is safe to self-manage an abortion using pills in the first trimester of pregnancy.

    Kentucky police reportedly got involved in Spencer’s case after Spencer talked about her pregnancy to clinic staffers. It is often healthcare workers who tip off the police in cases in which people are criminalized for pregnancy outcomes: out of 412 such cases uncovered by Pregnancy Justice, 264 involved information that had been disclosed in a medical setting.

    This is only continuing to get worse.

    In the two years after Roe fell, 412 people were prosecuted for pregnancy-related crimes, researchers at the reproductive justice group Pregnancy Justice found.

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