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Obscure no-deal Brexit group is UK's biggest political spender on Facebook

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    babypuncher Link
    Why would anyone anywhere want a no-deal Brexit? This will absolutely tank their economy for no good reason whatsoever.

    Why would anyone anywhere want a no-deal Brexit? This will absolutely tank their economy for no good reason whatsoever.

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      mat Link Parent
      I know people who want it. Not just that mate on Facebook who I keep in my friends list because despite his awful politics he's kind of OK if a bit dim; not just that old racist grandparent who...

      I know people who want it. Not just that mate on Facebook who I keep in my friends list because despite his awful politics he's kind of OK if a bit dim; not just that old racist grandparent who seems to think things were better in the 70s despite all the evidence to the contrary - one of these people is my actual MP. These people appear to have no concept of how a modern economy works and how devastating trading under WTO rules would be for the country. They're delusional to the point of being terrifying.

      One of the lines you hear is "no deal is better than a bad deal" and I've been trying to figure out what possible deal we could make that would be worse than no deal but nobody who says this ever has an answer. Because they lack any meaningful understanding of what they're talking about and once you scratch the surface of their beliefs there is nothing but a confused seething pit of anger and (in many but not all cases) barely disguised racism underneath.

      A friend of mine has been working in Brussels recently and he says talking to some Conservative MPs/MEPs/etc is like talking to flatearthers or anti-vax people. They genuinely think no deal is a good thing, but can't explain why and refuse to consider they might be wrong.

      If I had the means I would have left this country already. Many of my friends already have.

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      1. clerical_terrors Link Parent
        From perusing the Telegraph and other British newspapers it seems like some of the justifying beliefs are theories that not being bound to the EU's rules in terms of product safety etc. will allow...

        From perusing the Telegraph and other British newspapers it seems like some of the justifying beliefs are theories that not being bound to the EU's rules in terms of product safety etc. will allow the UK to be more competitive in the global marketplace. It completely ignores that other EU member states likely can not buy and re-sell these products specifically because they wouldn't meet standards but I suppose a bad justification is enough for them.

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      Neverland (edited ) Link Parent
      Two groups come to my mind: Any enemy of the EU and UK, like say the Kremlin would love to watch both EU and UK economies take a hit. It seems some ideologically extreme English folks are all for...

      Two groups come to my mind:

      1. Any enemy of the EU and UK, like say the Kremlin would love to watch both EU and UK economies take a hit.

      2. It seems some ideologically extreme English folks are all for no-deal Brexit: Hardcore Brexiteers push to leave European Union with no deal ahead of key vote

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      1. welly (edited ) Link Parent
        Apparently these idiots who are pushing for a no deal exit know things that top financial forecasters don't. I have absolutely no doubt that pensioner Stevens has an in depth understanding of...

        Apparently these idiots who are pushing for a no deal exit know things that top financial forecasters don't. I have absolutely no doubt that pensioner Stevens has an in depth understanding of economics which qualifies him to say it's all "scaremongering". :-/

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  2. cwagner Link
    Just to play Devil's advocate: I mean when stuff gets pushed to write or call MPs, no one ever says "Ads told me to do this." or "Reddit said I should write you".

    Just to play Devil's advocate:

    The emails do not mention the involvement of an organised campaign group.

    I mean when stuff gets pushed to write or call MPs, no one ever says "Ads told me to do this." or "Reddit said I should write you".