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Comment on Donald Trump eyeing executive order to end citizenship for children of noncitizens born on US soil in ~news
Shurik Link ParentI mean if he makes an executive order and it's illegal/unconstitutional the courts will decide that the same way they did with the "Muslim ban". The system is working as intended. I don't see the...I mean if he makes an executive order and it's illegal/unconstitutional the courts will decide that the same way they did with the "Muslim ban". The system is working as intended. I don't see the big deal.
I personally think that his point is in the spirit of the law. As stated by the examples given above. The Congressional transcript of the discussions of the 14th ammendmet support his point of view. Even though I agree with his position, the way you accomplish something like this is you go to the legislative branch and they pass a law.
The problem with that system is that the legislative branch has stopped writing laws. Because of that there is now a power vacuum that the judicial branch and the executive branch are fighting over. A good example of this is the legalization of gay marriage through the Supreme Court. This also occurrs in the executive branch with the EPA using the clean ait act to try to impose a carbon tax.
All of the ideas stated above are something I agree with and support, but the ends don't justify the means. If you want legalization of gay marriage go vote and elect Congressmen and women who will pass a bill to legalize it. If you want a carbon tax go pass a bill in Congress that states that. Don't kick it over to the judicial branch/executive branch respectfully.
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Comment on News and articles linked on Tildes in ~tildes
Shurik Link ParentI didn't notice the space I put it when I was commenting. Here is a link: https://newsvoice.comI didn't notice the space I put it when I was commenting. Here is a link: https://newsvoice.com
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Comment on News and articles linked on Tildes in ~tildes
Shurik LinkA collaboration with a news voice type application could be really interesting. The problem that apps like that have is that all the comments are low tier shitposting. It would be interesting to...A collaboration with a news voice type application could be really interesting. The problem that apps like that have is that all the comments are low tier shitposting. It would be interesting to bring something like that here.
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Comment on Donald Trump eyeing executive order to end citizenship for children of noncitizens born on US soil in ~news
Shurik Link ParentThe key part is "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." What that part of the statement means is up for debate. Native Americans born on US soil aren't eligible for US citizenship. The reasoning...The key part is "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." What that part of the statement means is up for debate.
Native Americans born on US soil aren't eligible for US citizenship. The reasoning behind it is that they don't fall under the jurisdiction of the US government.
Similarly children of diplomats to the US don't get citizenship. It's not a clear cut case and an argument can be made both ways.They can only interpret the Constitution, not overrule it.
Agreed. But the Supreme Court has made rulings that are clearly unconstitutional and then went back and revised those rulings after the fact. Again I bring up what occurred with FDR and the new deal. Those rulings were overuled later on. So this kind of political partisanship is nothing new.
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Comment on Donald Trump eyeing executive order to end citizenship for children of noncitizens born on US soil in ~news
Shurik Link Parenthat's a bold statement to make. Immigration in and of itself a good thing. I have no problem with immigration, I have a problem with ILLEGAL immigration. The US government has the right to say who...I don't think immigration is a problem.
Not to mention the hypocrisy of the President when Melania Trump's own parents used chain-migration to get citizenship to the US.
hat's a bold statement to make. Immigration in and of itself a good thing. I have no problem with immigration, I have a problem with ILLEGAL immigration. The US government has the right to say who enters it's country. Hence it not being hypocritical abusit the laws about immigration that are already on the books.
Again, you clearly have no idea how the Constitution works if you think an executive order can just get rid of an amendment of the Constitution.
It's not getting rid of an amendment of the Constitution, it's challenging it. If someone has a problem with it it goes to court and they decide if it constitutional. This has been done many times in the past, it's part of how the government operates. It's designed to be this way. A good example of this is FDR's new deal.
claim that is at all ambiguous show you have literally no idea what you are talking about.
I'm not making a claim one way or the other I'm setting up a question for debate. It's obviously in the gray area of is this what the 14th ammendmet said. A good example of this is the 2nd ammendmet, we have been arguing about what it means for the past 50 years? Hell, we have been arguing about what the 1st ammendmet is for the past 200 years. What makes the 14th ammendmet different?
What are the reason and arguments for each side? That's what I want to know.
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Comment on Halloween game sales are live. What are your Horror/Halloween-themed recommendations? in ~games
Shurik LinkNot a video game, but Arkham Horror is a good horror board game.Not a video game, but Arkham Horror is a good horror board game.
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Comment on Donald Trump eyeing executive order to end citizenship for children of noncitizens born on US soil in ~news
Shurik LinkOne one hand there is the 14th amendment, on the other anchor babies are a problem and need to be dealt with. If he intends to only target children where both parents are illegal immigrants, I see...One one hand there is the 14th amendment, on the other anchor babies are a problem and need to be dealt with. If he intends to only target children where both parents are illegal immigrants, I see no issue. If the parents are legal residents, or at least one parent is a legal resident, the kid should be a citizen. No further comment is required.
We also need to look at the context of the 14th amendment if we want to see if what he proposes is unconstitutional. We also need to take a look at is this a thing that the President can do with an executive order, or is it something Congress should be doing.
My personal answer is it's unconstitutional due to fact that the President is doing it with an executive order, not the idea itself is unconstitutional.
Edit: typo
Bad: "GAB’S DEMISE IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF A HORRIFIC NEW ERA OF FAR-RIGHT EXTREMISM"
Actual headline: "Trump vows executive order to end birthright citizenship, a move most legal experts say would run afoul of the Constitution"
Tildes headline: "Trump eyeing executive order to end citizenship for children of noncitizens born on U.S. soil"
Good: "Pentagon sending 5,200 troops to border"
"Humanity has wiped out 60% of animals since 1970, major report finds"
"Special counsel Robert Mueller accuses opponents of offering women money to make 'false claims' about him"
The bad have obvious bias in the headline with the language they use. The latter are just conveying the facts. Or don't change the meaning of the headline if the content is political in nature.