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lepigpen This is the "over complicated" part: "Yes, it's very possible (pretty easy, even). It doesn't necessarily solve a lot of situations nicely though, since it means that you have to put locks all...This is the "over complicated" part: "Yes, it's very possible (pretty easy, even). It doesn't necessarily solve a lot of situations nicely though, since it means that you have to put locks all over the place to prevent people from just starting up the same thing again if they can find a different "entry point", or even just starting a new top-level thread for it." - Deimos
It does complicate things, because if a person can just jump back in, and then needs to be locked again, it's not like Deimos is going to sit there and do so over and over. So the tool makes a small problem an even bigger problem. Making it a less effective tool. So that answers one of my specific questions. And the other question I asked seems clear, threads like that will be locked and they're not valuable to Tildes so if you feel bad about it, too bad.
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lepigpen Lol asking what to counter and then effectively countering. I see you Put simply, a fat acceptance thread would do totally fine here. A fat shaming thread will get locked/removed. I don't disagree...Lol asking what to counter and then effectively countering. I see you
Put simply, a fat acceptance thread would do totally fine here. A fat shaming thread will get locked/removed. I don't disagree with that, even though I'm on neither side of the debate I don't give a shit about people's appearance or health decisions in that way. But In those regards I hope it's crystal clear that this entire website leans not only a certain direction but maybe even a singular subset of that general direction considering there is likely to a be a TON of young, caucasian, left-leaning males. And then of course many of our females will also be young and left-leaning. Many of our older users will be left-leaning males. You see the picture I'm painting. If you're not 3 of the things you're probably 2 of the things ya know?
Basically, you don't need sycophants when your demographic is already set in stone. So, while I can admit I worded that part poorly. I just want to know if you disagree with me that that is the truth. Do you believe that Tildes has an overwhelming majority demographic thus creating a "vacuum"? And do you agree Deimos has the support of Tildes users, by no fault of his own?
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lepigpen Didn't you say you were going to leave me alone just above? This was in my original post: "I'm not sure if the site has the ability to lock one particular threadline or lock one particular user...Didn't you say you were going to leave me alone just above?
This was in my original post: "I'm not sure if the site has the ability to lock one particular threadline or lock one particular user out of that thread/sub. (I imagine this site has topic banning just like reddit has sub banning.)"
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lepigpen Looks like we're not "going there" either. Deimos just said they are unlikely to create a sub-thread locking tool because it would just over complicate things. So these problems continue, the...Looks like we're not "going there" either. Deimos just said they are unlikely to create a sub-thread locking tool because it would just over complicate things. So these problems continue, the mindset of this community gets continually narrowed down, and the site resists growth. GG
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lepigpen We maintained a high-quality discussion by voting the non-fat-shamer and not voting the fat-shamer, thread still got locked. I think it's a shame people are going to engage in flame wars that...We maintained a high-quality discussion by voting the non-fat-shamer and not voting the fat-shamer, thread still got locked.
I think it's a shame people are going to engage in flame wars that cause threads to get locked. There WAS a lot more to discuss on that topic that was actually F21 based but people chose to turn it into an obesity argument. Shame on those users. The true topic was about a corporation having a bad PR move and what constitutes proper handling of the situation.
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lepigpen Why does it have to be an attack and not an observation that makes logical human sense? He is the creator of the website. He is going to have a disproportionate amount of supporters. I'm not...Why does it have to be an attack and not an observation that makes logical human sense? He is the creator of the website. He is going to have a disproportionate amount of supporters. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm saying it's almost certainly the truth.
If you have a counter to it, by all means.
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lepigpen Just want to say thanks for keeping this thread on topic in regards to a new mod function. Another user has seemingly turned it into a "lepigpen is angry because he disagrees with me" thread and...Just want to say thanks for keeping this thread on topic in regards to a new mod function. Another user has seemingly turned it into a "lepigpen is angry because he disagrees with me" thread and totally derailed what I actually posted in my original.
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lepigpen The entire point... Of this thread... Was to discuss an existing tool or a new tool to lock a threadline or create a thread/topic ban for one user. And it's been turned into I am angry that I...The entire point... Of this thread... Was to discuss an existing tool or a new tool to lock a threadline or create a thread/topic ban for one user.
And it's been turned into I am angry that I didn't get my toys. That's a horrible look for Tildes community imo
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lepigpen If someone is blatantly fat shaming they won't be banned and we expect them to be much more mature in another thread? And a fat shaming person's actions cause a thread to be locked which hinders a...If someone is blatantly fat shaming they won't be banned and we expect them to be much more mature in another thread?
And a fat shaming person's actions cause a thread to be locked which hinders a non-fat-shaming conversation being had?
Also it's sad given the general maturity of Tildes we couldn't avoid feeding the troll on this one. I think that's the real shame. His comments should have stayed at no votes at the bottom of the page if that's how he was behaving.
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lepigpen So I re open the exact same link and topic right now because I would like to have these discussions and what? I get banned? lol I mean if that is how people react to the topic that is likely how...So I re open the exact same link and topic right now because I would like to have these discussions and what? I get banned? lol
I mean if that is how people react to the topic that is likely how they will react or where it will go.
Might as well make a new rule for Tildes: "dont post topics about weight because at least one person will clearly be oversensitive to it and you can sure as shit guarantee a troll-ish personality will take that opportunity to behave under-sensitive to it"
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lepigpen But there were 2 people in a singular thread line with me. Unless messaging has a group function is ruins the ability to cross post and potentially bring in new people to the discussion. We...But there were 2 people in a singular thread line with me. Unless messaging has a group function is ruins the ability to cross post and potentially bring in new people to the discussion.
We weren't discussing outrage anymore, if you look into it we began to discuss what F21's true intentions were and what their program was and how they would go about things if nothing was ever reported. And user KRG had a good comment as well.
It looks like this isn't going to be a discussion for change but a justification of "whats done is done". So I'll just sit in the corner and accept what Tildes offers me.
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lepigpen Again, more people have a worse experience because 1, arguably 2, people are immature. It looks like you won't be able to see things from my perspective so I guess there is nothing to be done...Again, more people have a worse experience because 1, arguably 2, people are immature.
It looks like you won't be able to see things from my perspective so I guess there is nothing to be done about it. I'm just less interested in having long form, mature conversation here now.
Back to clickbait titles and sob stories in personal threads it is for me!
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lepigpen Sure, but those effects occurring now make myself (and maybe others) less likely to use the site now. Wherever the site goes, I fear it's quite clearly become a single demographic of people. It's...Sure, but those effects occurring now make myself (and maybe others) less likely to use the site now.
Wherever the site goes, I fear it's quite clearly become a single demographic of people. It's already happening naturally, but to hasten that through this type of moderation is just guaranteeing this becomes some kind of vacuum/think tank
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lepigpen So... Do I have to pull up the comments from the conversation I was having to prove that it is not off topic bickering? Again, I was in a thread with maybe 3 other people having a mature...So... Do I have to pull up the comments from the conversation I was having to prove that it is not off topic bickering?
Again, I was in a thread with maybe 3 other people having a mature conversation. And apparently the immature conversation of 2 people causes a lock on an entire thread. So apparently volume, quantity of posts, wins in this regard. More mature people got locked out of a thread for less immature people. Immature people win lol
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lepigpen History repeats itself. And hoping that something will change by some act of luck or course of nature is a lot less appealing than asking for change from the people in control of the platform....History repeats itself. And hoping that something will change by some act of luck or course of nature is a lot less appealing than asking for change from the people in control of the platform. That's all I'm doin
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lepigpen Benefit? I dunno, what is the objective "benefit" of anything at all being discussed or posted on Tildes? If we are going to use that train of thought. Also why do I have to win against a troll to...Benefit? I dunno, what is the objective "benefit" of anything at all being discussed or posted on Tildes? If we are going to use that train of thought.
Also why do I have to win against a troll to justify my ability to post on Tildes. I was merely talking about me and other users who invested in a discussion and I never got to respond because it locked before I checked back here.
Again, you can say lepigpen vs troll all you want. But I said in my post, one troll should not affect multiple user's experience.
Or another way to put it, if it was that bad to be locked? Ban the user. If it wasn't that bad to ban the user, don't lock the thread. That is the lack of nuance right there.
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lepigpen Oh... Well... if we are going to operate with basic tools shouldn't we be a bit more lenient on when and why we moderate things. Meh. RIP nuance. Was looking forward to a conversation about that...Oh... Well... if we are going to operate with basic tools shouldn't we be a bit more lenient on when and why we moderate things.
Meh. RIP nuance.
Was looking forward to a conversation about that topic.
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lepigpen Looks like it worked in the comment thread below :/ God people just eat controversy up nowadays. Wasn't nearly this bad 10-20 years ago. The internet has changed the face of...Looks like it worked in the comment thread below :/
God people just eat controversy up nowadays. Wasn't nearly this bad 10-20 years ago. The internet has changed the face of trolling/sarcasm/pranks/lying in the worst way
Looks like I just learned a valuable lesson in, just message Deimos personally next time since it's a small community. Yikes