Warning: Nostr has embedded crypto exchange capabilties called "zaps" and nearly any nostr community or discussion is infested with hyperscaler cryptobros. I love the idea of nostr and their relay...
Warning: Nostr has embedded crypto exchange capabilties called "zaps" and nearly any nostr community or discussion is infested with hyperscaler cryptobros. I love the idea of nostr and their relay system, built something eerily similar about ten years ago for a tumblr clone that relied on a torrent seeding sort of system (basically relays). But, the community is dreadful, and the usage is limited and hampered by it.
Just use the atprotocol if you want a simple distributed sharing system, it's better now that Bluesky isn't the only node now and does a lot more than you think. You can see some different, linked, applications on the network here: Eurosky - Building a thriving open social web for Europe. I really love semble.so, and I imagine a lot of people here would too, it's research focused. Basically a crowdsourced unified pinboard in a way.
I don't really suggest the activitypub/mastodon model, as it's just poorly designed and a nightmare to maintain. Atproto is just a user repository that other applications can tap into, literally a folder of all your data you can move around.
Semble looks really interesting. Thanks for calling that out. ATproto is definitely one of the better ones! Personally, I'm not 100% convinced about Nostr and while I have generated nsec...
Semble looks really interesting. Thanks for calling that out. ATproto is definitely one of the better ones!
Personally, I'm not 100% convinced about Nostr and while I have generated nsec "accounts" on two different websites I haven't really explored the network. But as a technology Nostr is remarkably simple and easy to understand. The clarity of why it works the way it does is a lot more clear than reading 5x more about ActivityPub or ATproto. So I think it is a very notable "case study" and I'm surprised that I hadn't heard of it before
Solid is great, in theory, never seen a truly fully working implementation. Atproto is the closest to a production worthy version, it mostly resolves the N^2 problem by using optional...
Solid is great, in theory, never seen a truly fully working implementation. Atproto is the closest to a production worthy version, it mostly resolves the N^2 problem by using optional centralization, but a fully working Solid model + something like a cache/archive relay system would be likely ideal.
Personally I dislike many clients architecture. Me and my friends tried using Matrix a while back after Discord crapped out for the nth time. We found that it didn't work well, but also that it...
Personally I dislike many clients architecture. Me and my friends tried using Matrix a while back after Discord crapped out for the nth time. We found that it didn't work well, but also that it had a huge barrier to entry with the difficulty of trying to figure out which client to use. It's the Linux problem: yes, it might be great having a million and one finely tailored distributions, but most people don't want to have to extensively research (or blindly guess) which option to use. Personally, I like an authority on how to use or interact with a system, it vastly improves the experience for me.
This might be a very narrow and perhaps jaded view, I'd be interested in hearing why other people like that kind of approach.
Well it's kinda like picking an Email or RSS client. But I agree they should at least just pick one to be recommended for each category of task based on community feedback
Well it's kinda like picking an Email or RSS client. But I agree they should at least just pick one to be recommended for each category of task based on community feedback
Haha, I enjoy those examples being the ones you picked, because with email I used hotmail because that's what all my peers used back then and switched to gmail decades ago because it was strictly...
Haha, I enjoy those examples being the ones you picked, because with email I used hotmail because that's what all my peers used back then and switched to gmail decades ago because it was strictly better (and have never thought about switching since, there could be way better options for all I know!) and with RSS my dislike of picking a client has prevented me from ever adopting it!
Warning: Nostr has embedded crypto exchange capabilties called "zaps" and nearly any nostr community or discussion is infested with hyperscaler cryptobros. I love the idea of nostr and their relay system, built something eerily similar about ten years ago for a tumblr clone that relied on a torrent seeding sort of system (basically relays). But, the community is dreadful, and the usage is limited and hampered by it.
Just use the atprotocol if you want a simple distributed sharing system, it's better now that Bluesky isn't the only node now and does a lot more than you think. You can see some different, linked, applications on the network here: Eurosky - Building a thriving open social web for Europe. I really love semble.so, and I imagine a lot of people here would too, it's research focused. Basically a crowdsourced unified pinboard in a way.
I don't really suggest the activitypub/mastodon model, as it's just poorly designed and a nightmare to maintain. Atproto is just a user repository that other applications can tap into, literally a folder of all your data you can move around.
Semble looks really interesting. Thanks for calling that out. ATproto is definitely one of the better ones!
Personally, I'm not 100% convinced about Nostr and while I have generated nsec "accounts" on two different websites I haven't really explored the network. But as a technology Nostr is remarkably simple and easy to understand. The clarity of why it works the way it does is a lot more clear than reading 5x more about ActivityPub or ATproto. So I think it is a very notable "case study" and I'm surprised that I hadn't heard of it before
Two other interesting articles:
I'm reminded of Solid Project pods. I think they have immense potential, but there is yet to be a killer app to draw people into the ecosystem.
Solid is great, in theory, never seen a truly fully working implementation. Atproto is the closest to a production worthy version, it mostly resolves the N^2 problem by using optional centralization, but a fully working Solid model + something like a cache/archive relay system would be likely ideal.
Personally I dislike many clients architecture. Me and my friends tried using Matrix a while back after Discord crapped out for the nth time. We found that it didn't work well, but also that it had a huge barrier to entry with the difficulty of trying to figure out which client to use. It's the Linux problem: yes, it might be great having a million and one finely tailored distributions, but most people don't want to have to extensively research (or blindly guess) which option to use. Personally, I like an authority on how to use or interact with a system, it vastly improves the experience for me.
This might be a very narrow and perhaps jaded view, I'd be interested in hearing why other people like that kind of approach.
Well it's kinda like picking an Email or RSS client. But I agree they should at least just pick one to be recommended for each category of task based on community feedback
Haha, I enjoy those examples being the ones you picked, because with email I used hotmail because that's what all my peers used back then and switched to gmail decades ago because it was strictly better (and have never thought about switching since, there could be way better options for all I know!) and with RSS my dislike of picking a client has prevented me from ever adopting it!