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Elasticsearch and Kibana are now business risks

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    Cypher2048
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    The way the "Offering the Program as a Service" section reads may as well say this source/application cannot be used in any service to a third party. It seems to require you to open the source...

    The way the "Offering the Program as a Service" section reads may as well say this source/application cannot be used in any service to a third party. It seems to require you to open the source code for all associated software right down to the firmware on the hardware that you host your service on. This is practically impossible.

    I think moving to this license for their "open" version of the software is just Elastic reaching for more money and taking a shot at two different groups:

    1. They want to prevent competitors, like Amazon, from taking the software they develop and competing with them as a cloud platform. ie: AWS and Open Distro

    2. They want to force companies that use their software as a back-end for providing other services to have to become a paying customer.

    It is continuing to feel like the "open" version of their software is becoming a demo version, and they have no real interest in open software anymore. They are a publicly traded company reaching for those ever increasing profits.

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      1. Cypher2048
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        Yeah. It is totally yours and Elastic's prerogative to set and/or change a project's license. It just sucks when a project that has become popular and received a lot of community adoption under a...

        Yeah. It is totally yours and Elastic's prerogative to set and/or change a project's license. It just sucks when a project that has become popular and received a lot of community adoption under a very permissive license decides to start restricting rites to newer versions of that software.

        Elastic isn't making this license change because they want other companies to open up their software. The terms in that section of the license were designed to be nearly impossible to adhere to. Especially for groups who have already invested in the platform. They are narrowly exploiting a subsection of their user base to make more money. Maybe their motives are to help keep the company afloat financially. It's hard to say if the company went under whether another large organization would be willing and able to adopt it and keep it going at its current scale. Without knowing their motives for sure, it just feels scummy.

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