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Problems with "snackbar"/"toast" notifications, and what to use instead

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    asoftbird
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    I really hate them, especially if they don't close quick enough. For example: the Win10 volume display. Change your volume and it stays visible for 5 seconds. Oh, it's configurable? Too bad, the...

    I really hate them, especially if they don't close quick enough.

    For example: the Win10 volume display. Change your volume and it stays visible for 5 seconds. Oh, it's configurable? Too bad, the minimum duration is 5 seconds.

    If you accidentally move your mouse too close while it is fading out, it'll reactivate and reset the timer. 9 out of 10 times it's blocking exactly that part of the screen l use the most.

    l just don't get why it has to be that large and obtrusive for just showing me the volume.

    4 votes
    1. ThatFanficGuy
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      I said in this thread that I like these kinds of notifications in general, when they aren't trying to grab my attention. This? Oh yeah, pitchforks out the closet. Windows 10 also has notifications...

      I said in this thread that I like these kinds of notifications in general, when they aren't trying to grab my attention. This? Oh yeah, pitchforks out the closet.

      Windows 10 also has notifications that don't fucking disappear for a while while covering part of the tray. No, I don't care about that one unimportant security notification "while you were away". If I need it, I know where the button is, it changes color when there's new ones in.

      VK, the Russian social network, does this as well. If you did something on the page while the notification popped up, and it started to fade away, and you switch pages, the notification pops back up at full transparency and doesn't leave until you've acted on the page again.

      There are plenty of examples of these types of notifications done badly. These should be mentioned and rectified. They aren't deal-breaking, but they create grind in what is otherwise a well-oiled workflow, and if you like retaining customers, this ain't good news for you.

      But I do think that, as a type of notifications, these are alright.

      4 votes
  2. ThatFanficGuy
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    I kinda like those. I like how they "hover over" the content in a separate mental layer which isn't big and doesn't take up much energy to process. I think they're perfectly fine as notifications....

    I kinda like those. I like how they "hover over" the content in a separate mental layer which isn't big and doesn't take up much energy to process.

    I think they're perfectly fine as notifications. Most of the problems that are intrinsicly linked to this type of notifications only come into effect when said notifications are interactive. If your interface requires this sort of workflow, interactive parts of these "toasts" could be linked to hotkeys which you can press as a reaction: Spacebar works best if there's a single action; if there's more, set Spacebar to the most immediate/important one, and... I dunno, I haven't thought enough how to deal with the rest of them.

    Also, you could use activity detection to test whether you should run the timeout on the notification or keep it on-screen. If the user's AFK, they will still see the notification when they come back. If they're reading, the note should be easy-enough to filter out of one's mind's eye; remove it smoothly but quickly if they scroll, or click, or move their mouse, or press a key...

    Also, damn Adam's website loads quickly.

    2 votes