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Pakistan is planting lots of mangrove forests. Is it restoration? Carbon colonialism? Both?

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    WTFisthisOMGreally
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    I read this mostly to find out what they meant by carbon colonialism, but didn’t find out. I assume it has to do with rich nations offloading their problems to poor nations, but I feel like this...

    I read this mostly to find out what they meant by carbon colonialism, but didn’t find out. I assume it has to do with rich nations offloading their problems to poor nations, but I feel like this is different bc no one is being exploited; it’s good for the planet and for the Pakistani residents. It’s certainly distasteful that these rich companies are happily spewing CO2 while paying someone to make them look “green,” but what’s the alternative?

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      vord
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      Make the rich companies stop spouting CO2, not just be allowed to use accounting to absolve guilt? IMO this is why carbon credit/taxes are insufficient without rations. Add taxes which reflect not...

      It’s certainly distasteful that these rich companies are happily spewing CO2 while paying someone to make them look “green,” but what’s the alternative?

      Make the rich companies stop spouting CO2, not just be allowed to use accounting to absolve guilt? IMO this is why carbon credit/taxes are insufficient without rations.

      Add taxes which reflect not just CO2 emissions, but overall lifecycle impact, to punish manufacturers of disposable goods?

      Mandate long warantee periods, in excess of 10 years to incentivize durability, upgradability, and repairability?

      Standardize labor costs so that the costs of expensive goods aren't masked by slavery lower in the supply chain?

      Reduce inequality to the point virtually nobody can own a personal aircraft without sacrificing most other luxury?

      Ban building new commercial areas if there are vacant buildings within 5 miles , mandating renovation or replacement instead?

      Mandate all parking lots with more than 10 spots have solar panel shades installed?

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        WTFisthisOMGreally
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        The problem is that the US govt is so corrupt that none of those regulations will ever happen. I agree regulation would be best, but since it’s just not going to happen, I’m glad someone is doing...

        The problem is that the US govt is so corrupt that none of those regulations will ever happen. I agree regulation would be best, but since it’s just not going to happen, I’m glad someone is doing something.

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        1. vord
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          I don't disagree really. I think the one that are most likely to actually happen is longer warrantees. But having an understanding of what is actually needed helps interpret changes (and arguments...

          I don't disagree really. I think the one that are most likely to actually happen is longer warrantees. But having an understanding of what is actually needed helps interpret changes (and arguments against changes) with a better light. See also my other post about carbon rations.

          I frankly think we have better odds at banning marketing than most of the rest of the list. Eliminating the ability to manufacture demand will drastically reduce churn of electronics and other consumer goods. And most everyone hates ads.

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