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Can you help me source this climate change map?

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  1. [4]
    joelthelion
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    I find the map in the linked article very interesting, because it allows to see the effects of global warming in a very graphic way: the US is gone, the most populated part of Asia is gone, etc....

    I find the map in the linked article very interesting, because it allows to see the effects of global warming in a very graphic way: the US is gone, the most populated part of Asia is gone, etc.

    Unfortunately I'm having a hard time verifying that it's based on sound science. I've been able to trace it to this New Scientist article, but they don't cite a source.

    Could anyone knowledgeable help me find where this is coming from? Also, are there any newer similar maps?

    3 votes
    1. [3]
      Neverland
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      Hmm, this is really interesting, but looking at the source site of the map creator gives little more information where the data came from. I saw that source at the bottom of the post link. I also...

      Hmm, this is really interesting, but looking at the source site of the map creator gives little more information where the data came from. I saw that source at the bottom of the post link.

      I also found this very verbose explanation of a 4C global mean temp rise. The interesting thing is that with 4C global, some places will see a 10C global rise which is pretty crazy. However, even that piece doesn’t seem to have any scientific research that it can claim directly as a source.

      Then I found this guardian article about desertification in a 4C world, and cites actual research by Rachel Warren, but did not link to it the specific piece. Googling her name and a quote form the article led me the actual 2010 paper.

      Here is all of her research and it looks interesting.

      So.. maybe he used her research for the desert parts, but on the web it’s really hard answer the original question, at least for me :)

      I seem to not be the person you were looking for:

      Could anyone knowledgeable

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      1. [2]
        joelthelion
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        Unfortunately the "source site of the map creator" is just an intermediate who copied the original map. As far as I can tell, the original creator of the map is the new scientist. Since it's an...

        Unfortunately the "source site of the map creator" is just an intermediate who copied the original map. As far as I can tell, the original creator of the map is the new scientist. Since it's an established magazine, I guess we can trust them. I would just have liked to see on which research they based their work.

        I'd also love to see similar maps for different temperature rises, like +2°C, +3, ... I think it would be very interesting to compare.

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        1. Neverland
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          Oh, I thought he had a book of these and was the original creator.

          Oh, I thought he had a book of these and was the original creator.

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    Triseult
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    Can't help you source it, but I just wanna point out this map is a fantastic SF writing resource. It's my go-to map whenever I want to write about future Earth where we haven't solved the threat...

    Can't help you source it, but I just wanna point out this map is a fantastic SF writing resource. It's my go-to map whenever I want to write about future Earth where we haven't solved the threat of climate change.

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    1. Amarok
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      Future Timeline is also pretty handy for timing technology and climate impact.

      Future Timeline is also pretty handy for timing technology and climate impact.

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  3. KapteinB
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    I'd suggest contacting the author of the article to ask, but they don't list any ways of contacting him. As a map lover I may have just found a new favourite writer though.

    I'd suggest contacting the author of the article to ask, but they don't list any ways of contacting him. As a map lover I may have just found a new favourite writer though.