I never played the originals but a glance through the YouTube comments confirms that this is a very different concept from those games. My impression was that they were cut from the same cloth as...
I never played the originals but a glance through the YouTube comments confirms that this is a very different concept from those games. My impression was that they were cut from the same cloth as other ‘90s edgelord titles like Postal, where you’re wreaking violent chaos against innocents in public spaces. Wasn’t running over as many pedestrians as possible a key scoring mechanic? Looks like they’ve been replaced with zombies, and the regular city streets with closed-course gladiatorial tracks?
I dunno, as a non-fan I’m not exactly trying to defend the integrity of the brand. I was never into those outrage-bait games that lean into psychopathy as an aesthetic (I don’t have a moral problem with them either, I just find them distasteful and not-for-me). And I realize I’m likely just mischaracterizing games I have no experience with, which isn’t fair — Carmageddon’s got a pretty large following so I’m sure it’s well-made and fun. Just seems like this, judging from the trailer, is more akin to Twisted Metal and just using the Carmageddon name for brand recognition.
The thing is, Carmageddon was not just outrage bait. You could win the race by running over all the people in the map, but it was much easier to instead win by racing or by destroying all the...
The thing is, Carmageddon was not just outrage bait. You could win the race by running over all the people in the map, but it was much easier to instead win by racing or by destroying all the opponents' cars, which was fun and well made and the AI adapted to what it assumed your goal was. So it was edgy, but within that it was a really good actual game with fun physics, damage modelling and also silliness. You're correct that this seems like a different game - no pedestrians, closed tracks and also no staple Carmageddon weapons, like rotating spikes at the front of the car to increase ramming damage or silly things like jumping lightning bolts etc.
I do understand that such explicit edginess in current realistic 3D graphics would hit a bit harder than Carmageddon, but I still think it's kind of crazy how in many ways we now self censor more than we did in the 90s. I'd love to see a full-on Carmageddon sequel with everything, done in a retro 3D style similar to Old School Rally for example.
One thing I loved about the originals is how silly they were, e.g. the giant spring to knock away your opponents, or the ball and chain weapon, etc., - from this trailer it looks like they eschew...
One thing I loved about the originals is how silly they were, e.g. the giant spring to knock away your opponents, or the ball and chain weapon, etc., - from this trailer it looks like they eschew that for guns and rockets, which is a shame. That said, I'm willing to go in with an open mind, I'd love this to be great!
I never played the originals but a glance through the YouTube comments confirms that this is a very different concept from those games. My impression was that they were cut from the same cloth as other ‘90s edgelord titles like Postal, where you’re wreaking violent chaos against innocents in public spaces. Wasn’t running over as many pedestrians as possible a key scoring mechanic? Looks like they’ve been replaced with zombies, and the regular city streets with closed-course gladiatorial tracks?
I dunno, as a non-fan I’m not exactly trying to defend the integrity of the brand. I was never into those outrage-bait games that lean into psychopathy as an aesthetic (I don’t have a moral problem with them either, I just find them distasteful and not-for-me). And I realize I’m likely just mischaracterizing games I have no experience with, which isn’t fair — Carmageddon’s got a pretty large following so I’m sure it’s well-made and fun. Just seems like this, judging from the trailer, is more akin to Twisted Metal and just using the Carmageddon name for brand recognition.
The thing is, Carmageddon was not just outrage bait. You could win the race by running over all the people in the map, but it was much easier to instead win by racing or by destroying all the opponents' cars, which was fun and well made and the AI adapted to what it assumed your goal was. So it was edgy, but within that it was a really good actual game with fun physics, damage modelling and also silliness. You're correct that this seems like a different game - no pedestrians, closed tracks and also no staple Carmageddon weapons, like rotating spikes at the front of the car to increase ramming damage or silly things like jumping lightning bolts etc.
I do understand that such explicit edginess in current realistic 3D graphics would hit a bit harder than Carmageddon, but I still think it's kind of crazy how in many ways we now self censor more than we did in the 90s. I'd love to see a full-on Carmageddon sequel with everything, done in a retro 3D style similar to Old School Rally for example.
I played Carmageddon 2 so much. I hope this one is promising.
I grew up playing Carmegeddon on my DOS machine, one of my all times favourite games.
Made by the studio behind RedOut (I && II), so this is likely going to be incredible.
I can't watch the trailer at the moment. But I wonder how it is going to compare to the originals.
One thing I loved about the originals is how silly they were, e.g. the giant spring to knock away your opponents, or the ball and chain weapon, etc., - from this trailer it looks like they eschew that for guns and rockets, which is a shame. That said, I'm willing to go in with an open mind, I'd love this to be great!