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Terraria for Stadia canceled due to Re-Logic owner Andrew Spinks' Google account getting disabled without reason

@Andrew Spinks:
@Google my account has now been disabled for over 3 weeks. I still have no idea why, and after using every resource I have to get this resolved you have done nothing but given me the runaround.

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  1. Ember
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    Permanent banning/disabling is a concept that doesn't get enough thought. I think it's fair to agree the Internet will be around for a very long time... and so the big services will probably be...
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    Permanent banning/disabling is a concept that doesn't get enough thought. I think it's fair to agree the Internet will be around for a very long time... and so the big services will probably be around for a long time too. Will you be using your gmail account in 50 years? When your grandchildren browse the internet, will they want to see old YouTube videos you posted? Did you pass your favorite MMO account down to your family to continue playing on it?

    Considering all of that... permanent banning is a death sentence to a small piece of the Internet. It's forever, in a platform that could possibly live forever. You get banned from your gmail? That email address will be gone until the end of Google. Your kid got your WoW account banned after 20 collective years of gameplay? Gone forever.

    What if "bans", by default, came with a time limit? Always, even if it's a 1-year ban, or a 20-year ban, a century ban! Considering the potential lifespan of the Internet, why is a "virtual death sentence" the default form of punishment?

    29 votes
  2. Bauke
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    The full thread:

    The full thread:

    @Google my account has now been disabled for over 3 weeks. I still have no idea why, and after using every resource I have to get this resolved you have done nothing but given me the runaround.

    My phone has lost access to thousands of dollars of apps on @GooglePlay. I had just bought LOTR 4K and can't finish it. My @googledrive data is completely gone. I can't access my @YouTube channel. The worst of all is losing access to my @gmail address of over 15 years.

    I absolutely have not done anything to violate your terms of service, so I can take this no other way than you deciding to burn this bridge. Consider it burned. #Terraria for @GoogleStadia is canceled. My company will no longer support any of your platforms moving forward.

    I will not be involved with a corporation that values their customers and partners so little. Doing business with you is a liability.

    20 votes
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    hungariantoast
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    At risk of being nuanced to death, I just want to say: I posted a topic back in January: Google Safe Browsing can kill a startup. I found that article on Hacker News and on there were these two...

    At risk of being nuanced to death, I just want to say:

    I posted a topic back in January: Google Safe Browsing can kill a startup. I found that article on Hacker News and on there were these two comments that have stuck with me:

    At this point however, I still don't think it's outright malice, but the doubling down on these horrific practices (algorithmically and opaquely destroying people) is so egregious that it doesn't really matter. As far as I'm concerned, Google is to be considered a hostile actor. It's not possible to do business on the internet in any way without running into them, so "de-Googling" isn't an option. Instead, I am going to personally (and advise my clients as well) to:

    Consider Google as a malicious actor/threat in the InfoSec threat modeling that you do. Actively have a mitigation strategy in place to minimize damage to your company should you become the target of their attack.

    [Google] is to be modeled as a threat not because it is malign, but because it doesn't notice you exist as it takes another step forward.

    Dealing with Google is like dealing with whales. The whales probably won't attack you, or otherwise act maliciously, but that doesn't stop them from killing you with little effort, so you must be careful, treat them as a threat, and take some precautions.

    First and foremost, don't do business with Google.

    If you can't not or won't not do business with Google, at least separate your "soul-selling business with Google" account from your "don't look at me like I'm a traitor" personal account, so they can't nuke all your personal life junk when your product or business crosses one of their ten thousand contradictory red lines and is phaser-beamed by our algorithm overlords.

    Your business will probably still go under, or at least lose out on a good chunk of income, but at least your fucking dog photos will be safe, traitor.

    But Spinks might have already done this, I don't know. I don't know how to read Twitter.

    I really hope he discussed this with the other folks at Re-Logic, but I also seriously doubt they were depending on Terraria being on Stadia to keep themselves afloat.

    So in that case, good on them. This was the best decision they could have made. Fuck Google.

    17 votes
    1. Bauke
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      This event has now also made me start on doing the final push towards abandoning Google altogether, I had been slowly moving away from it for years but by the end of tomorrow I will have deleted...

      This event has now also made me start on doing the final push towards abandoning Google altogether, I had been slowly moving away from it for years but by the end of tomorrow I will have deleted my account.

      Fuck Google.

      8 votes
  4. [2]
    Wes
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    Seems the port is uncancelled. Source: https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/terraria-state-of-the-game-february-2021.103428/

    Seems the port is uncancelled.

    As you may have noticed, we had a ton of issues to kick off the year stemming from the locking-down of Redigit's entire Google account in early January. After a month of pushing (and with the immense support of our fans), Google finally reached out and was able to provide a lot of transparency around the situation and to restore access to all of our accounts. Due to the hard work the Stadia team has put in - as well as our partners at 505 Games - we have decided that we will allow the upcoming launch Terraria on Google Stadia to proceed. The Terraria Stadia build is based on the DR Studios 1.4.0.5 (latest) build, and is currently at Google for certification review.

    Source: https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/terraria-state-of-the-game-february-2021.103428/

    13 votes
  5. guts
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    This has been a PR meltdown of Google and Stadia. The day Microsoft changes xCloud blades to Series X there won't be other reason to join Stadia.

    This has been a PR meltdown of Google and Stadia. The day Microsoft changes xCloud blades to Series X there won't be other reason to join Stadia.

    6 votes