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  1. Comment on Google is enabling RCS independently of mobile operators in the UK and France this month in ~tech

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    The comments are in support of posting the original source, and not circumventing them. It's pretty clear that Outline does just that. The original source should be submitted, and if necessary, an...

    The comments are in support of posting the original source, and not circumventing them. It's pretty clear that Outline does just that.

    The original source should be submitted, and if necessary, an Outline link can be posted in the comments.

  2. Comment on Google is enabling RCS independently of mobile operators in the UK and France this month in ~tech

  3. Comment on Google is enabling RCS independently of mobile operators in the UK and France this month in ~tech

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    I believe Outline links are discouraged on Tildes. It's also best to use the original title unless it can be made more informative.

    I believe Outline links are discouraged on Tildes. It's also best to use the original title unless it can be made more informative.

    1 vote
  4. Comment on UserScript that hides votes like in the recent experiment in ~tildes

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    Ah good point. I thought I would just display: none any relevant vote selectors, but I guess the Vote buttons have the totals on them. You could probably do a hack with max-width and overflow:...

    Ah good point. I thought I would just display: none any relevant vote selectors, but I guess the Vote buttons have the totals on them.

    You could probably do a hack with max-width and overflow: hidden or something, but that's not so clean.

    Maybe I'd submit a quick PR to get a span tag on the button. :)

    2 votes
  5. Comment on UserScript that hides votes like in the recent experiment in ~tildes

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    Nice work. I was thinking of doing the same thing (though probably as a userstyle instead of userscript). I'll be curious to see what the conclusions will be from the experiment. I'd be glad to...

    Nice work. I was thinking of doing the same thing (though probably as a userstyle instead of userscript).

    I'll be curious to see what the conclusions will be from the experiment. I'd be glad to see the removal of scores made permanent, as I felt like I enjoyed browsing more that way. Also okay would be a user pref to hide them (though I still don't enjoy being judged on my own visible score so much). But we'll see! The feedback seemed pretty mixed as a whole so I don't know what to expect.

    Writing a style/script seems like a good way to go in the mean time. That's my current approach to hiding votes on reddit as well (who will never remove karma).

    5 votes
  6. Comment on You (Probably) Don't Need ReCAPTCHA in ~tech

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    Unfortunately it will also kick out autofill tools.

    Unfortunately it will also kick out autofill tools.

  7. Comment on "Amazon's Choice" is given to products automatically and doesn't indicate quality - Many have troubling product defects and warnings, as well as review manipulation in ~tech

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    While I've never consciously considered this, I think I already knew it. It didn't seem like a promoted ad nor an example of human curation. Being an algorithmic pick is the only thing that really...

    While I've never consciously considered this, I think I already knew it. It didn't seem like a promoted ad nor an example of human curation. Being an algorithmic pick is the only thing that really makes sense.

    For what it's worth, I actually find the label valuable. It does a pretty decent job of finding the least-crappy product in a category. I use it as a jumping off point to compare other items against.

    14 votes
  8. Comment on I believe Google search is restricting what articles I can see in my searches, based on my location. What can I do? in ~tech

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    Actually I believe the explanation does cover your experience as well. This is what is meant by the "dynamic nature of search". Consider that thousands of results are being generated dynamically...

    Actually I believe the explanation does cover your experience as well. This is what is meant by the "dynamic nature of search". Consider that thousands of results are being generated dynamically across a vast network of servers, and typically in under a tenth of a second. This process is more focused on relevancy and speed than it is on consistency. That is to say, it isn't idempotent.

    In your example, if the first two results are deemed to be of approximately equal value then the order is likely considered unimportant. If it's unimportant then the fastest option wins.

    In your second case where the person with exactly the same hardware gets a slightly shuffled result, that is most likely the result of one server having a faster response than another. Search is messy and complicated.

    3 votes
  9. Comment on I believe Google search is restricting what articles I can see in my searches, based on my location. What can I do? in ~tech

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    You should really post Google's response to the "filter bubble" argument as well. https://twitter.com/searchliaison/status/1070027261376491520 This is by Danny Sulivan who worked at Search Engine...

    You should really post Google's response to the "filter bubble" argument as well.

    https://twitter.com/searchliaison/status/1070027261376491520

    This is by Danny Sulivan who worked at Search Engine Land before joining Google as their search liaison.

    6 votes
  10. Comment on I believe Google search is restricting what articles I can see in my searches, based on my location. What can I do? in ~tech

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    As far as I know, Google search requires a region parameter. If there is a way to omit it then I'm not aware of it. I would assume it just falls back to geoip if that information isn't provided.

    As far as I know, Google search requires a region parameter. If there is a way to omit it then I'm not aware of it. I would assume it just falls back to geoip if that information isn't provided.

    4 votes
  11. Comment on I believe Google search is restricting what articles I can see in my searches, based on my location. What can I do? in ~tech

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    Yes, location is used to personalize Google search results. All search results are based around a region (even when using a VPN), but you can set that region under Search Settings. On the results...

    Yes, location is used to personalize Google search results. All search results are based around a region (even when using a VPN), but you can set that region under Search Settings. On the results page go to Settings > Search Settings > Region Settings, then set United States or wherever else you'd like.

    5 votes
  12. Comment on Comment vote counts are now visible again in ~tildes.official

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    I agree with you, I preferred the week without. There's much to say - and I said a lot already in the previous thread - but between the two options we've tried I definitely preferred not seeing...

    I agree with you, I preferred the week without. There's much to say - and I said a lot already in the previous thread - but between the two options we've tried I definitely preferred not seeing them.

    edit: Less than 24 hours later and I'm already back to chronically checking my userpage. Oof. :(

    2 votes
  13. Comment on Updates to "Activity" sorting method (the site's default) in ~tildes.official

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    If there is need (and I'm sure somebody will find a workflow that depends on it), then the less-useful sorts could be placed into a dropdown beside the others. Or possibly just remain accessible...

    If there is need (and I'm sure somebody will find a workflow that depends on it), then the less-useful sorts could be placed into a dropdown beside the others. Or possibly just remain accessible via URL, and pointed to in the docs.

  14. Comment on Updates to "Activity" sorting method (the site's default) in ~tildes.official

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    Yeah, I think this is actually the biggest cause of confusion. Some filters use thread information, others use comment information. The category names attempt to briefly cover both and that leads...

    especially when there are two comment-based sorting methods

    Yeah, I think this is actually the biggest cause of confusion.

    Some filters use thread information, others use comment information. The category names attempt to briefly cover both and that leads to confusion. eg. new comments vs new threads.

    A tooltip explanation on hover may help some, but of course mobile users won't be able to see that.

    Here's a crazy question. Is "Most comments" even a useful sort method? I understand sorting by new comments or threads, but simply sorting by volume seems unnecessary to me. Maybe the category name "Comments" can be reclaimed for something better.

    5 votes
  15. Comment on Updates to "Activity" sorting method (the site's default) in ~tildes.official

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    Setting any labels before comment submission would negate the need for a time delay.

    Setting any labels before comment submission would negate the need for a time delay.

    15 votes
  16. Comment on Updates to "Activity" sorting method (the site's default) in ~tildes.official

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    Gotchya. So that means that adding some complex logic might affect the parsing time of the background process, but has utterly no effect on generating the link index. Thanks!

    Gotchya. So that means that adding some complex logic might affect the parsing time of the background process, but has utterly no effect on generating the link index. Thanks!

    2 votes
  17. Comment on Updates to "Activity" sorting method (the site's default) in ~tildes.official

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    Is that how it works? Been on the site 8+ years and had no idea. I usually just click the permalink for the comment I want to respond to when there's no reply button.

    HackerNews has a timer for nested replies. The deeper a thread goes, the longer it can take for the 'reply' button to appear.

    Is that how it works? Been on the site 8+ years and had no idea. I usually just click the permalink for the comment I want to respond to when there's no reply button.

    3 votes
  18. Comment on Updates to "Activity" sorting method (the site's default) in ~tildes.official

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    That seems like a fair approach to me. After four or five replies threads usually turn off topic or devolve into pedancy ("no, you said XYZ above"). Deeply-nested, three-way arguments are a lot...

    That seems like a fair approach to me. After four or five replies threads usually turn off topic or devolve into pedancy ("no, you said XYZ above").

    Deeply-nested, three-way arguments are a lot less common in my experience so scaling it up to more users probably isn't required.

    Out of curiosity, does the bumping logic occur when a comment is actually posted/labeled (eg. updates an activity score in the DB)? Or is it calculated on-the-fly when building the list of threads for the reader?

    If the latter, I imagine it would get expensive to start applying more complex logic when building an index like this. Is that right?

    Ninja edit: Actually I guess it's not generated for the reader specifically because there's no user personalization. So it should be a lot cheaper to generate, even if it is all dynamic.

    5 votes
  19. Comment on Updates to "Activity" sorting method (the site's default) in ~tildes.official

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    Does it solve the problem of two users having a conversation for days on end? I don't know how often labels are used in practice, but I expect the majority of comments go unlabeled. Perhaps if a...

    Are there cases where the label-based "uninteresting" judgment won't work well? Links to specific examples would be ideal, if possible.

    Does it solve the problem of two users having a conversation for days on end? I don't know how often labels are used in practice, but I expect the majority of comments go unlabeled.

    Perhaps if a chain consists entirely of two users, that should be deemed not interesting.

    6 votes
  20. Comment on Jordan Peterson Announces Free Speech Platform ‘Thinkspot’ in ~tech

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    The zero-width space character may be finding some new use.

    The zero-width space character may be finding some new use.

    23 votes