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Your coronavirus test is positive. Maybe it shouldn’t be

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    skybrian
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    From the article: [...] [...] [...] [...] Binary thinking strikes again!

    From the article:

    Some of the nation’s leading public health experts are raising a new concern in the endless debate over coronavirus testing in the United States: The standard tests are diagnosing huge numbers of people who may be carrying relatively insignificant amounts of the virus.

    Most of these people are not likely to be contagious, and identifying them may contribute to bottlenecks that prevent those who are contagious from being found in time. But researchers say the solution is not to test less, or to skip testing people without symptoms, as recently suggested by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    Instead, new data underscore the need for more widespread use of rapid tests, even if they are less sensitive.

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    “We’ve been using one type of data for everything, and that is just plus or minus — that’s all,” Dr. Mina said. “We’re using that for clinical diagnostics, for public health, for policy decision-making.”

    But yes-no isn’t good enough, he added. It’s the amount of virus that should dictate the infected patient’s next steps. “It’s really irresponsible, I think, to forgo the recognition that this is a quantitative issue,” Dr. Mina said.

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    The PCR test amplifies genetic matter from the virus in cycles; the fewer cycles required, the greater the amount of virus, or viral load, in the sample. The greater the viral load, the more likely the patient is to be contagious.

    This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients, although it could tell them how infectious the patients are.

    In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.

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    Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk — akin to finding a hair in a room long after a person has left, Dr. Mina said.

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    “It’s just kind of mind-blowing to me that people are not recording the C.T. values from all these tests — that they’re just returning a positive or a negative,” said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University in New York.

    “It would be useful information to know if somebody’s positive, whether they have a high viral load or a low viral load,” she added.

    Binary thinking strikes again!

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    1. aethicglass
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      There have been some really awesome interviews with Michael Mina about this on This Week in Virology and MedCram on youtube. MedCram also did a shorter explanation of the concepts involved, and...

      There have been some really awesome interviews with Michael Mina about this on This Week in Virology and MedCram on youtube.

      MedCram also did a shorter explanation of the concepts involved, and they did a really good job of explaining it imo.

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