Interesting study. I hate that it’s not wrong. As a 911 Dispatcher and son and nephew of police officers, I hate that we’re in an environment where every choice and decision they make are second...
Interesting study. I hate that it’s not wrong. As a 911 Dispatcher and son and nephew of police officers, I hate that we’re in an environment where every choice and decision they make are second guessed. I hate that there’s so little faith in them anymore.
For 23 years, I’ve watched my dad leave home and and have always had in my mind that I might not see him in the morning. He’s also a member of his departments bomb squad so every time he left on a bomb call, I had to wonder if this time, the bomb might be real.
But I also can’t fathom what it must be like to live in fear of police.
I’m very torn.
I also understand that this is probably gonna paint me as racist. I’m not. But I acknowledge how it sounds
I suppose I’m too used to the Reddit hivemind that says I can’t be both. If I don’t unequivocally support minorities, I’m racist, and if I don’t unequivocally support the police, I’m a libtard
I suppose I’m too used to the Reddit hivemind that says I can’t be both. If I don’t unequivocally support minorities, I’m racist, and if I don’t unequivocally support the police, I’m a libtard
Speaking just for myself, what scares me is that someone providing misinformation to the police could result in me being killed, and the lack of apparent effort on the part of police to mitigate...
Speaking just for myself, what scares me is that someone providing misinformation to the police could result in me being killed, and the lack of apparent effort on the part of police to mitigate that.
It's absolutely worrying that people live in fear of the police. But I think it should be more worrying, especially to the police, that some people are using them as instruments of terror and violence.
Also, the details of the case aside, what do you and your family think of an officer treating their service weapon like it has a Fortnite skin? As someone who might be on the other side of that weapon, it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
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I find myself coming back to this story a lot. At what may have been the philosophical crossroads of policing in America, a more community oriented model of policing was defeated by officers who cared more about how they saw themselves than how the community saw them.
And you're not wrong to be scared. As a dispatcher, I cannot tell you how many phone calls I get that start with "There's a suspicious black man walking down the street......" I take dozens of...
And you're not wrong to be scared.
As a dispatcher, I cannot tell you how many phone calls I get that start with "There's a suspicious black man walking down the street......"
I take dozens of calls of nights that start like that. Someone doing nothing more than walking down a street or an alley and gets the cops called on them because of the color of their skin. Or what they're wearing.
Now a police/citizen interaction, and the possibility for something to go horribly wrong, exists because of someone elses bias or prejudice.
As far as information gathering, believe me, we try. The problem is that we have to act based on the information we're given. For us, seconds count and every second we spend trying to verify information, is another second that someone in distress might not have. And unfortunately, there are times where we can't verify. Maybe we can't reach anyone by phone, or theres already history at the house that makes the story plausible. It's a shitty line that's become all too easy to cross and all too easy to criticize.
The sad truth is that officers are generally trained to protect against the worst possible outcome of an encounter and then de escalate from there.
In the situation of the CNN SWAT article, the police are sent to an address where they've been told that an armed man has already possibly killed someone and is holding others hostage.
In this case, they acted quickly and an innocent man died.
But what if the story had been true? What if valuable seconds go by and that shooter kills the remaining hostages while the PD is trying to verify the story? Then the PD is put on blast for wasting time and if they had just acted, maybe those people would still be alive.
As far as the FORTNITE skin.....my family would be appalled. I've been raised since a young age to respect firearms to the utmost. They are weapons. They are designed to kill. And the moment you don't respect it, it can kill you. Hell, you can take all the precautions and something can still go wrong. In my house, guns stay in a safe until a specific reason exists for them to come out. Most of the time, that reason is a hunting trip.
Interesting study. I hate that it’s not wrong. As a 911 Dispatcher and son and nephew of police officers, I hate that we’re in an environment where every choice and decision they make are second guessed. I hate that there’s so little faith in them anymore.
For 23 years, I’ve watched my dad leave home and and have always had in my mind that I might not see him in the morning. He’s also a member of his departments bomb squad so every time he left on a bomb call, I had to wonder if this time, the bomb might be real.
But I also can’t fathom what it must be like to live in fear of police.
I’m very torn.
I also understand that this is probably gonna paint me as racist. I’m not. But I acknowledge how it sounds
I suppose I’m too used to the Reddit hivemind that says I can’t be both. If I don’t unequivocally support minorities, I’m racist, and if I don’t unequivocally support the police, I’m a libtard
Speaking just for myself, what scares me is that someone providing misinformation to the police could result in me being killed, and the lack of apparent effort on the part of police to mitigate that.
It's absolutely worrying that people live in fear of the police. But I think it should be more worrying, especially to the police, that some people are using them as instruments of terror and violence.
Also, the details of the case aside, what do you and your family think of an officer treating their service weapon like it has a Fortnite skin? As someone who might be on the other side of that weapon, it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
Edit:
I find myself coming back to this story a lot. At what may have been the philosophical crossroads of policing in America, a more community oriented model of policing was defeated by officers who cared more about how they saw themselves than how the community saw them.
And you're not wrong to be scared.
As a dispatcher, I cannot tell you how many phone calls I get that start with "There's a suspicious black man walking down the street......"
I take dozens of calls of nights that start like that. Someone doing nothing more than walking down a street or an alley and gets the cops called on them because of the color of their skin. Or what they're wearing.
Now a police/citizen interaction, and the possibility for something to go horribly wrong, exists because of someone elses bias or prejudice.
As far as information gathering, believe me, we try. The problem is that we have to act based on the information we're given. For us, seconds count and every second we spend trying to verify information, is another second that someone in distress might not have. And unfortunately, there are times where we can't verify. Maybe we can't reach anyone by phone, or theres already history at the house that makes the story plausible. It's a shitty line that's become all too easy to cross and all too easy to criticize.
The sad truth is that officers are generally trained to protect against the worst possible outcome of an encounter and then de escalate from there.
In the situation of the CNN SWAT article, the police are sent to an address where they've been told that an armed man has already possibly killed someone and is holding others hostage.
In this case, they acted quickly and an innocent man died.
But what if the story had been true? What if valuable seconds go by and that shooter kills the remaining hostages while the PD is trying to verify the story? Then the PD is put on blast for wasting time and if they had just acted, maybe those people would still be alive.
As far as the FORTNITE skin.....my family would be appalled. I've been raised since a young age to respect firearms to the utmost. They are weapons. They are designed to kill. And the moment you don't respect it, it can kill you. Hell, you can take all the precautions and something can still go wrong. In my house, guns stay in a safe until a specific reason exists for them to come out. Most of the time, that reason is a hunting trip.