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UK Home Secretary Suella Braverman says multiculturalism has ‘failed’ in Europe during migration speech

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    R1ch
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    I would say that multiculturalism has succeeded. Look at what we have, we have an ethnic minority that became Home Secretary that has never faced adversity on the basis of skin color. Sounds like...

    I would say that multiculturalism has succeeded.

    Look at what we have, we have an ethnic minority that became Home Secretary that has never faced adversity on the basis of skin color.

    Sounds like the system is working just fine to me.

    16 votes
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      Raistlin
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      For God's sake, she's working for a Hindu PM. What the hell do Tories mean when they use the word "multiculturalism"?

      For God's sake, she's working for a Hindu PM. What the hell do Tories mean when they use the word "multiculturalism"?

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      1. CptBluebear
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        Muslims. I feel bad for posting a one word comment so I started writing an apology but really there's nothing else to say. That's just what they mean.

        Muslims.

        I feel bad for posting a one word comment so I started writing an apology but really there's nothing else to say. That's just what they mean.

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    2. stu2b50
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      I wouldn't really say that's a zing. For better or for worse, Asian immigrants to the anglosphere assimilate quite heavily - East Asian immigrants famously give their children "western" first...

      I wouldn't really say that's a zing. For better or for worse, Asian immigrants to the anglosphere assimilate quite heavily - East Asian immigrants famously give their children "western" first names, and Koreans intentionally butchered the romanization of their family names to seem familiar. Both her and Sunak are culturally essentially indistinguishable from the British upper class in general, whereas multiculturalism is more about tolerating and accepting more discrete sets of cultural norms from different peoples.

      Well, if you want to blunt about it, Braverman and the rest of that political coalition don't like Muslim immigrants.

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  2. Lateralis
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    So, just to be clear, Suella Braverman, a woman whose parents were a Mauritian Hindu and Kenyan Christian who emigrated from India to the UK in the 60s, and who herself converted to Buddhism and...

    So, just to be clear, Suella Braverman, a woman whose parents were a Mauritian Hindu and Kenyan Christian who emigrated from India to the UK in the 60s, and who herself converted to Buddhism and married a man who is "proudly Jewish", thinks that...

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    ... multiculturalism has "failed".

    This is also the same woman who believes it is perfectly acceptable to discriminate against queer people, specifically queer people fleeing a home country where homosexuality is illegal in some way.

    She is a truly ghastly, hateful person. It's a stain on Britain that she is Home Secretary.

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  3. JoshuaJ
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    Sunak and Braverman are echoes of British colonialism at work plain and simple. Their families come from India during a time of British rule, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indians_in_Kenya It's...

    Sunak and Braverman are echoes of British colonialism at work plain and simple.

    Their families come from India during a time of British rule, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indians_in_Kenya

    It's literally a hybrid of the Indian Caste system and colonialism, promoting a 3 tier system - whites > browns > blacks.

    They then made it to the imperial headquarters of the UK and quickly assimilated with the English upper class.

    Make 0 mistake they hate the poor and are most likely entirely racist even to other brown and black people behind closed doors.

    The fact they would be dropped and discarded the second they cease to be useful by the white British elite in their own party, is the fear that drives them to continue to push down others, no wonder they became Tories.

    Pure scum and the epitome of "pulling the ladder up" after they have benefited from an unequal system, rather than trying to make it fairer.

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    ignorabimus
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    She's also incompetent and dangerous in the position she occupies. Here's a good clip of her failing to answer a very simple question on Home Office policy (which she is supposedly responsible for...

    She's also incompetent and dangerous in the position she occupies. Here's a good clip of her failing to answer a very simple question on Home Office policy (which she is supposedly responsible for determining): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Houh6Az97s4

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      redbearsam
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      Wow that video is on the surface hilarious, but on any deeper level.... Wow. She's... She's the home secretary. How did we get here?

      Wow that video is on the surface hilarious, but on any deeper level.... Wow. She's... She's the home secretary. How did we get here?

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      1. kallisti
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        The Tories booted anyone with any experience out over the whole Brexit rigmarole, and then we were left with pure barrel-scrapings for cabinet positions. They were never good, but I feel like...

        The Tories booted anyone with any experience out over the whole Brexit rigmarole, and then we were left with pure barrel-scrapings for cabinet positions. They were never good, but I feel like under Cameron there was at least a general impression of competency even if it was them being competent at doing bad things.

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  5. Amun
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    The Home Secretary says multiculturalism in Europe has ‘failed’ as she calls for asylum reform to try and preserve national identities. Suella Braverman has hosted a keynote speech in Washington today in order to campaign for changes to global asylum rules.

    Mr Braverman also said it is ‘dangerous’ to dismiss people who express concerns about immigration numbers as ‘idiots or bigots’. She says the current framework, introduced after World War II, is ‘outdated’ and today deals with many millions more people than it did when it was put in place 70 years ago.


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    She said multiculturalism ‘has failed because it allowed people to come to our society and live parallel lives in it’, and even ‘pursue lives aimed at undermining the stability and threatening the security of our society’.

    She referenced a speech by former German chancellor Angela Merkel in 2010 in which she said multiculturalism had failed, saying she is ‘not sure that very much has changed since’.

    • Migration to the UK and Europe in the last 25 years ‘has been too much, too quick, with too little thought given to integration and the impact on social cohesion,’ she said.
    • Ms Braverman added: ‘If cultural change is too rapid and too big, then what was already there is diluted. Eventually it will disappear.
    • ‘I believe that the nation state is one of humanity’s great civilising forces. It creates a shared identity and a shared purpose, and that does not need to have a racial component.
    • ‘Typically it binds people of different racial background together. Far from being an ugly emotion, patriotism stirs people to heroism and kindness.
    • ‘In order for nationality to be sustainable economically, culturally, and in terms of public support, it needs to encompass everyone.
    • ‘That in turn means the country cannot grow exponentially and still maintain the harmony for everyone to feel that we are all in this together.
    • ‘If immigration is uncontrolled, it makes it harder for society to adapt and accommodate new cultures and customs.
    • ‘If people are not able to settle in our countries and start to think of themselves as British, American, French, or German, then something is going badly wrong.’

    Ms Braverman also hit back at critics during the speech, arguing that concerns over immigration does not make one an ‘idiot’ or a ‘bigot’. In the address, she said the ‘cynical’ reason that countries had together failed to reform the decades-old global asylum system was a ‘fear of being branded a racist or illiberal’.

    • She added: ‘Any attempt to reform the Refugee Convention will see you smeared as anti-refugee. ‘Similar epithets are hurled at anyone who suggests reform of the ECHR (European Convention on Human Rights) or its court in Strasbourg.
    • ‘I reject the notion that a country cannot be expected to respect human rights if it is not signed up to an international human rights organisation.
    • ‘As if the UK doesn’t have a proud history of human rights dating back to Magna Carta, and the ECHR is all that is holding us back from becoming Russia.’

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    • She ran unsuccessfully for the Conservative leadership last summer and is a likely candidate to stand again should Rishi Sunak lose the next general election.
    • Her decision to visit Washington, and make such a punchy speech, will inevitably be seen through the lens of her own leadership ambitions.

    • In her speech Ms Braverman said: "Let me be clear, there are vast swathes of the world where it is extremely difficult to be gay, or to be a woman. Where individuals are being persecuted, it is right that we offer sanctuary.

    • "But we will not be able to sustain an asylum system if in effect, simply being gay, or a woman, and fearful of discrimination in your country of origin is sufficient to qualify for protection.

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    • Jon Featonby, the charity’s chief policy analyst, said: “In our work with people in the asylum system, we have seen no evidence that Home Office decision-makers are lowering the threshold for asylum so that a well-founded fear of persecution is replaced with discrimination. The home secretary’s claims do not appear to be grounded in credible evidence.”

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