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  1. Comment on Half of people on weight loss drugs quit within one year, Danish study finds – more likely to stop taking the drugs if they were younger, lived in poorer areas, or were men in ~health

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    I'm not sure it's as simple as just that (though I'd agree it's a part of a solution). Some folks don't have access to higher quality food. Some folks don't choose it.

    I'm not sure it's as simple as just that (though I'd agree it's a part of a solution).

    Some folks don't have access to higher quality food. Some folks don't choose it.

    4 votes

  2. Comment on The case for cultured meat has changed in ~food

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    Okey dokey. I mean, that is precisely what I think. I guess we can both be content in our own confidence. You know yourself ofc, but I've walked this road. Doesn't really matter what I think...

    Okey dokey. I mean, that is precisely what I think. I guess we can both be content in our own confidence. You know yourself ofc, but I've walked this road. Doesn't really matter what I think anyway eh.

    2 votes

  3. Comment on The case for cultured meat has changed in ~food

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    Hey, you do you. I certainly found these kinds of arguments persuasive - as did many folks I know - so I'm not in agreement that it's always counterproductive. I can't speak for you, but I know I...

    Hey, you do you. I certainly found these kinds of arguments persuasive - as did many folks I know - so I'm not in agreement that it's always counterproductive.

    I can't speak for you, but I know I used to hate those arguments - in hindsight - because - I couldn't really find a way to get around them that fit with the utilitarian ethical approach I aspired to.

    If you're not interested in engaging then more power to ya. I'll catch ya in some other thread about something else - all good.

    3 votes

  4. Comment on The case for cultured meat has changed in ~food

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    Fair points. I suppose the counter would be that I didn't want to consider it, until the right comment and the right time meant that I did. And it changed my ethical outlook. This is a discussion...

    Fair points. I suppose the counter would be that I didn't want to consider it, until the right comment and the right time meant that I did. And it changed my ethical outlook.

    This is a discussion board where people exchange ideas and opinions, ideally where they're relevant. I wouldn't describe my comment as sniping. I'd have described it as a logical follow on from the ethical point raised in the comment to which I was responding.

    If it changes no minds on this occasion, so be it - that's just part and parcel of discourse. I thought it was a reasonable expansion and I stick by that.

    3 votes

  5. Comment on The case for cultured meat has changed in ~food

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    I'm think we're talking at crossed purposes perhaps. I'm saying that whether something is normalized isn't a good metric for whether it's ethical. I used an extreme hypothetical to express that...

    I'm think we're talking at crossed purposes perhaps. I'm saying that whether something is normalized isn't a good metric for whether it's ethical. I used an extreme hypothetical to express that the logic, in a different context, doesn't make sense - from my POV.

    The obvious corollary is slavery; in the 18th century one could have said a very similar thing:

    "And yet, in the context of [slaves], we do, sometimes at least, care about their treatment [whilst keeping them as owned things]."

    The point I wished to briefly touch on, was that when we're identifying whether something is ethical, identifying what we currently do and deciding that's the line is a flawed approach. I see these 3 things as essentially the same.

    1. Keeping slaves is immoral whether or not you treat them well.
    2. Killing children is immoral whether or not you treat them well.
    3. Killing animals is immoral whether or not you treat them well.

    I felt this was reasonable to raise in response specifically to a discussion of the ethics of meat consumption:

    "I like eating meat, and I prefer it comes from well-treated animals!"

    Where - if not following such a statement - would be a place to raise that point? It didn't seem shoehorned in to me?

    2 votes

  6. Comment on The case for cultured meat has changed in ~food

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    I guess that's a normalized perspective sure. I'm not convinced that makes it a rational position though. I think the analogy holds up quite well and is a useful hypothetical.

    I guess that's a normalized perspective sure. I'm not convinced that makes it a rational position though. I think the analogy holds up quite well and is a useful hypothetical.

    1 vote

  7. Comment on The case for cultured meat has changed in ~food

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    If someone treated someone else really nicely till they were 10 years old then murdered them, nobody would consider the nice treatment relevant to the ethics of the murder. It would be the murder...

    If someone treated someone else really nicely till they were 10 years old then murdered them, nobody would consider the nice treatment relevant to the ethics of the murder. It would be the murder that defined their relationship in the end, basically to the exclusion of all else.

    3 votes

  8. Comment on The evidence that AI is destroying jobs for young people just got stronger in ~tech

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    I mean, also, it's kind of a tragedy of the commons type deal; if only you reduce only your costs by hiring no juniors, and no other businesses follow suit then it might work - the wider effects...

    I mean, also, it's kind of a tragedy of the commons type deal; if only you reduce only your costs by hiring no juniors, and no other businesses follow suit then it might work - the wider effects don't come into play. The market incentivizes agents to make decisions that are beneficial short term.

    7 votes

  9. Comment on Most Ukrainians now favor ending the war with Russia through negotiations, as support for fighting until victory has dropped sharply since the early days of the conflict in ~society

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    "Support for the war effort" and "belief they can secure a total victory" are two vastly different things.

    "Support for the war effort" and "belief they can secure a total victory" are two vastly different things.

    23 votes

  10. Comment on Most Ukrainians now favor ending the war with Russia through negotiations, as support for fighting until victory has dropped sharply since the early days of the conflict in ~society

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    As other commenters have highlighted already, but to be more succinct: the title does not reflect the content of the poll in my view.

    As other commenters have highlighted already, but to be more succinct: the title does not reflect the content of the poll in my view.

    27 votes

  11. Comment on Ukraine strikes Russia's oil refineries - the effects, politics and what next? in ~society

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    I still can't really see any route out of this quagmire.

    I still can't really see any route out of this quagmire.

  12. Comment on What's your current PC wallpaper? in ~tech

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    All but three of these are in my rotation also (the purple cartoony mystery van one having been added just now - thanks). Excellent taste my friend.

    All but three of these are in my rotation also (the purple cartoony mystery van one having been added just now - thanks). Excellent taste my friend.

    1 vote

  13. Comment on The ancient Roman alternative to daylight saving time; An hour was not a consistent unit of time. In the summer it could be as long as 75 minutes and in the winter it sometimes lasted just 45 minutes. in ~humanities.history

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    That article more seems to suggest that it was beneficial for energy saving and that lower evening casualties quite probably compensated for increased morning ones, by my reading.

    That article more seems to suggest that it was beneficial for energy saving and that lower evening casualties quite probably compensated for increased morning ones, by my reading.

    9 votes

  14. Comment on Do you share your location with your friends? in ~tech

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    I'm with you in that I don't find it so very strange, and if my closer friends were doing this then I'd probably do it too. That being said it's not something we do or have done and I don't see...

    I'm with you in that I don't find it so very strange, and if my closer friends were doing this then I'd probably do it too. That being said it's not something we do or have done and I don't see much value in it so won't lead the charge. (1989 baby)

    6 votes

  15. Comment on The Ten Rules of Techno (performance) in ~music

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    Is that like a deleted scene from True Romance or something? It seems somehow familiar....

    Is that like a deleted scene from True Romance or something? It seems somehow familiar....

  16. Comment on I spent months living with smart glasses. People talk to me differently now. in ~tech

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    I read it precisely the same way, with the same curiosity as you. I expect you're probably right though. Don't attribute to malice that which etc etc

    I read it precisely the same way, with the same curiosity as you.

    I expect you're probably right though. Don't attribute to malice that which etc etc

    1 vote

  17. Comment on I spent months living with smart glasses. People talk to me differently now. in ~tech

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    The title really ought to be "I spent months living with smart glasses. People talk to me differently when I'm wearing them". The article title makes it sound as though there's been some permanent...

    The title really ought to be "I spent months living with smart glasses. People talk to me differently now when I'm wearing them".

    The article title makes it sound as though there's been some permanent effect upon him, and therefore that you're about to read something more shocking than it is. It's still an interesting article, dunno why they felt the need to use this cheap trick....

    9 votes

  18. Comment on The vast majority ~90% of us only consume, never post and never comment. So come on in, leave a tildes-worthy comment, and join the 10% my dear lurker in ~talk

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    Ahhh. I thought they'd coined the term "meatspace". I guess not.

    Ahhh. I thought they'd coined the term "meatspace". I guess not.

  19. Comment on Russia’s summer offensive is turning into an escalating crisis for Ukraine in ~society

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    Christ you're not wrong. Sounds like that dude had a real rough week. Hero vibes eh

    Christ you're not wrong. Sounds like that dude had a real rough week. Hero vibes eh

  20. Comment on The vast majority ~90% of us only consume, never post and never comment. So come on in, leave a tildes-worthy comment, and join the 10% my dear lurker in ~talk

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    I wonder if I ought to be gifting links from my The Times sub redbeardad has set up for me.... It's not a newspaper I'd choose to read, and in a way that makes it more interesting; the...

    I wonder if I ought to be gifting links from my The Times sub redbeardad has set up for me.... It's not a newspaper I'd choose to read, and in a way that makes it more interesting; the perspectives are so very far off from mine (and those here) that they do tend to drive engagement.

    Up till now that's been him and me creating a spectacle in the family chat.

    4 votes