Yeah don't blame them. If only we could ask Cana... ER Mexic.... Well. It's almost like there's a reason why creating good will with our allies rather than strong arming them is the right move....
I don't think we will export. We also have an egg shortage in Europe and there we already have export channels we use. So it's rather that we export within Europe.
Yeah don't blame them. If only we could ask Cana... ER Mexic.... Well.
It's almost like there's a reason why creating good will with our allies rather than strong arming them is the right move. Even if the import difficulties were ultimately insurmountable, they don't even have the inclination to assist, for understandable reasons.
I can’t believe we are at a point where we are considering transporting eggs over the Atlantic. I know it’s mostly a talking point, but does everyone really eat this many eggs ? Before the bird...
I can’t believe we are at a point where we are considering transporting eggs over the Atlantic.
I know it’s mostly a talking point, but does everyone really eat this many eggs ? Before the bird flu and after, my egg consumption hasn’t changed. It was not a major point of sustenance for me. Heaven forbid we ask people to modify their behaviors in a time of crisis ?
I eat fewer eggs now, but they were a fairly cheap, low effort protein source for a lot of folks - not as much work as cooking meat or plant based options - and part of basically every fast food...
I eat fewer eggs now, but they were a fairly cheap, low effort protein source for a lot of folks - not as much work as cooking meat or plant based options - and part of basically every fast food breakfast item, or meal prepped breakfast recipe.
But I also have about two dozen because I can easily cook 2-3 a day if I eat breakfast at home. And I have a habit of grabbing a dozen if I see a reasonable price.
That's the healthiest, smartest thing consumers could be doing. Eggs are great nutrition! But also just buy eggs when they're available and reasonably priced in your budget. It's all a...
That's the healthiest, smartest thing consumers could be doing. Eggs are great nutrition! But also just buy eggs when they're available and reasonably priced in your budget. It's all a disproportionate fuss. You see people hoarding eggs which is just crazy.
That's fair, when I was more into bodybuilding I definitely ate more eggs, cost to protein ratio/calorie ratio can't be beat (milk is up there too). Eggs are also a safe food for many and...
That's fair, when I was more into bodybuilding I definitely ate more eggs, cost to protein ratio/calorie ratio can't be beat (milk is up there too). Eggs are also a safe food for many and versatile.
There does seem to be a heavy obsession in the USA with eggs being a breakfast thing and breakfast being "the most important meal of the day" as well.
We do have an insistence here of X foods being "for breakfast." Half the appeal of things like "girl dinner" and charcuterie/butter boards is not needing to adhere to "rules" of dining.
We do have an insistence here of X foods being "for breakfast." Half the appeal of things like "girl dinner" and charcuterie/butter boards is not needing to adhere to "rules" of dining.
hell yes! the smorgasbord as well! anything is a breakfast food if you eat it "at breakfast time." (including desserts, zing.) I did not know there was a term like "girl dinner," but now realize...
hell yes! the smorgasbord as well! anything is a breakfast food if you eat it "at breakfast time." (including desserts, zing.)
I did not know there was a term like "girl dinner," but now realize this is how I always eat lol. It seems similar to "picky bits" if I'm not mistaken.
Girl dinner was a Tiktok trend that was started by rugby player Ilona Maher's sister Olivia actually. With this sound getting attached to a lot of examples Covered by the NYT (gift) Is It a Meal?...
Girl dinner was a Tiktok trend that was started by rugby player Ilona Maher's sister Olivia actually.
With this sound getting attached to a lot of examples
Described as "chaotic but filling" or no prep just vibes. Some vids are more like a piece of gum (concerning) or a nap (I get it I'm tired) but the gist was just chaos.
It's a step up from just eating the shredded cheese from the bag while standing in front of the fridge like a goblin. And it sort of spoke to the "I'm not "making" dinner for myself, I'm just throwing stuff together" feelings that many of us have. The point isn't calorie restriction or pickiness so much as eating what you want without prep. When I was in Ireland in college my gas station lunches were often a baguette and a hunk of Irish cheese. Less nutritionally ideal but I felt very Hobbit-esque.
There's also a useful therapy meme that points out if making a sandwich feels like a lot for ones depression or executive dysfunction, that eating the ham and the cheese and the bread on separately is equally valid. That idea can hit folks as a revelation sometimes!
Anyway I'm sorry for the word vomit, I just know a lot on this one 😅
On a side note, I'm finding it really weird how many people have begun describing their eating habits as "like a goblin". A recent Adam Ragusea video had his wife make broiler nachos and when...
On a side note, I'm finding it really weird how many people have begun describing their eating habits as "like a goblin". A recent Adam Ragusea video had his wife make broiler nachos and when asked how it would be served she said something like you lean over it and pick at it like a goblin. But I mean, yeah, that's kind of just how you eat nachos. It's not goblin-like at all.
It's just strange to me that people would dehumanize themselves like that. I can get that you might want to use it over the other popular idiomatic comparison, like a pig, but it actually feels worse because goblins are pretty solidly on the "evil" scale of mythical creatures.
I get that it's probably stemming from the phrase "goblin mode", but I've heard "like a goblin" many times more than that.
You're talking to some who LARPed as a "fuck no I'm not an elf, I have horns, do I look like I have a stick up my ass?" character alongside any number of goblins, orcs, animalkin, etc. and as an...
You're talking to some who LARPed as a "fuck no I'm not an elf, I have horns, do I look like I have a stick up my ass?" character alongside any number of goblins, orcs, animalkin, etc. and as an avid D&D player the "adopted goblin" is practically a trope for parties. "Dehumanizing" is not in my mind at all. Without table manners under the cover of darkness is. But I've LARPed and hung out with plenty of people who are furries for example (those animalkin in particular) and often "human" is not their goal.
They're often played more cute than "evil" (racial/ancestry alignment is passé). But also "Goblin Core" is an aesthetic about loving moss and bugs and mushrooms and collecting rocks - they go click clack - in a way that highlights less traditionally appealing biomes than cottage core. If you've ever seen anyone just grab a handful of rocks or a tiny frog from their pocket as a gift, you've found goblincore aesthetic. It's the bottom pic not the top.
So no, it's not an insult to myself, it's just acknowledging I'm shoveling a handful of cheese in my mouth, standing at the fridge, usually with no other light but the fridge light. Nothing else sounded good and I needed to eat SOMETHING because my stomach hurt
Someone I follow who has identified with this more than once is voiceactorErika Ishii
(Links to a variety of vids or gifs from different socials. )
ETA: oh and I'm not eating "like a pig" it's not the quantity or about being fat (I don't get down with fatphobic or food shaming), it's the manner in which one eats, and it's meant at worst in a bit of a "yeah I could at least have put the cheese in a bowl or something" way, and at best in a "goblins gonna goblin" way.
Memes move quickly, I joke that I'm on Tiktok because it lets me know what the kids are saying (it's even more useful than that, but I work with college students.)
Memes move quickly, I joke that I'm on Tiktok because it lets me know what the kids are saying (it's even more useful than that, but I work with college students.)
So funny thing, I read this comment a few hours ago and then, just now, came across this: goblin manifesto -> https://maya.land/goblin I hope you enjoy it as much as I did
So funny thing, I read this comment a few hours ago and then, just now, came across this:
a double decker sandwich, made after bedtime, where you use all the different kinds of mustard in the fridge for no real reason and some cured meat you’re not sure is still good, and then you’re about to stuff it in your mouth and the kitchen light flicks on and you freeze at a loved one’s look of judgment: this is a goblin foodstuff. a double decker sandwich advertised as Man Food: not a goblin foodstuff.
I see those inspirational baked goods photos. a strawberry shortcake is not a goblin food unless it is stolen. slices of processed cheese eaten out of the plastic, that’s #goblincore, that’s goblin food.
They’re used in a ton of recipes too, many of which are not particularly compatible with egg substitutes (and even for those that are, substitutes can yield undesirable texture changes in the...
They’re used in a ton of recipes too, many of which are not particularly compatible with egg substitutes (and even for those that are, substitutes can yield undesirable texture changes in the resulting food).
I've had pretty good luck with removing eggs from everything I've tried. The only ones where substitutes were not really acceptable are the ones that are built around eggs specifically (omelets,...
I've had pretty good luck with removing eggs from everything I've tried. The only ones where substitutes were not really acceptable are the ones that are built around eggs specifically (omelets, eggs benedict, etc).
But then again I never particularly cared for eggs to begin with.
Or add allergens! I have a family member allergic to eggs though she can eat brownies with an egg or two in them, she can't eat them solo or as the main component of the dish. So she still bakes...
Or add allergens! I have a family member allergic to eggs though she can eat brownies with an egg or two in them, she can't eat them solo or as the main component of the dish. So she still bakes with them. Eggs are useful little things.
I worked for a large logistics company with another large egg producer as a customer. The 2015 avian flu is what landed us that customer: we pitched importing eggs from Europe and executed it....
I worked for a large logistics company with another large egg producer as a customer. The 2015 avian flu is what landed us that customer: we pitched importing eggs from Europe and executed it. Lots and lots of boats of eggs. The sourcing, transit, transfers between modes (road, rail, boat, air), food integrity, etc was bonkers.
But somehow it was worth it to that producer. Likely without that plan they would have lost their customers and been out of business.
Since then, they developed the ability to use those connections to continue shipping back to Europe. They sell many more egg WHITES in the US, and export the YOLK to Europe. Just a difference in attitudes about the different parts.
Eggs are used for many more things than just omelets, too.
Ah no, this is two different time periods. After the egg industry in the US stabilized, they were able to produce domestically (in the US). Then they utilized their new international shipping...
Ah no, this is two different time periods. After the egg industry in the US stabilized, they were able to produce domestically (in the US). Then they utilized their new international shipping partners and experience to begin an export business.
I've massively cut my egg consumption but a few years ago I was buying the 60+ packs at the store. Cooking for more than one? Breakfast of at least 2 eggs per person. Dinner often had a fried rice...
I've massively cut my egg consumption but a few years ago I was buying the 60+ packs at the store. Cooking for more than one? Breakfast of at least 2 eggs per person. Dinner often had a fried rice scramble going on, so veggies and eggs included in that. Baking? Eggs a plenty.
I've modified my behavior plenty of times for many reasons but you'll find the average person puts a much higher importance on their status quo than adjusting to changes... See COVID and all that.
It's variable. But often, when my kids are home we go through at least 4 eggs in a morning, sometimes more. Prior to all this, I've been buying 48 eggs for the month and we usually get through all...
It's variable.
But often, when my kids are home we go through at least 4 eggs in a morning, sometimes more. Prior to all this, I've been buying 48 eggs for the month and we usually get through all of them by week 3.
Are they used a lot in industry? I feel like a lot of ready meals, and pasties and that tend to always include egg (stupid veganism!). So this would affect more than just consumers? That being...
Are they used a lot in industry? I feel like a lot of ready meals, and pasties and that tend to always include egg (stupid veganism!). So this would affect more than just consumers?
That being said it does seem as though populist does as populists do.
Locally I have seen a lot of bakeries discuss how the egg shortage is hitting them hard, so that's fair. But I'd also consider these baked items luxury items, enriched breads, and such. Industry...
Locally I have seen a lot of bakeries discuss how the egg shortage is hitting them hard, so that's fair. But I'd also consider these baked items luxury items, enriched breads, and such.
The most common way that flu vaccines are made is using an egg-based manufacturing process that has been used for more than 70 years. Egg-based vaccine manufacturing is used to make both inactivated (killed) vaccine (usually called the "flu shot") and live attenuated (weakened virus) vaccine (usually called the "nasal spray flu vaccine").
The egg-based production process begins with CDC or another laboratory partner in the WHO Global Influenza Surveillance and Response System providing private sector manufacturers with candidate vaccine viruses (CVVs) grown in chicken eggs per current FDA regulatory requirements. These CVVs are then injected into fertilized chicken eggs and incubated for several days to allow the viruses to replicate. The fluid containing virus is harvested from the eggs. For inactivated influenza vaccines (i.e., flu shots), the vaccine viruses are then inactivated (killed), and the virus antigen is purified. The manufacturing process continues with quality testing, packaging and distribution. For the nasal spray flu vaccine (i.e., the live attenuated influenza vaccine – LAIV), the starting CVVs are used to make live, but weakened viruses that are then used in vaccine production. FDA tests and approves all flu vaccines prior to release and shipment.
I did not have a lot of money after college., eggs and ramen were how i got by. While I personally still eat a good amount of eggs, their main contribution to society was being a cheap and...
I did not have a lot of money after college., eggs and ramen were how i got by. While I personally still eat a good amount of eggs, their main contribution to society was being a cheap and nutritionally rich source.
As a side note: Eggs are used in everything as well. Bakers generally love eggs. Some recipes ain't the same without them stiff peaks.
Take this with a grain of salt as I don’t know enough about the industry to validate this theory, but: https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/hatching-a-conspiracy-a-big-investigation In that sense,...
In other words, the only thing that the egg industry seems to have expanded in response to the avian flu epidemic is windfall profits — which have likely amounted to more than $15 billion since the epidemic began (judging by the increase in the value of annual egg production since 2022), and appear to have been spent primarily on stock buybacks, dividends, and acquisitions of rivals instead of rebuilding and expanding flocks. When an industry starts profiting more from not producing than from producing, it’s a sign that something isn’t right.
In that sense, getting competition from overseas could reign in the greedflation at work here.
Realistically though it'll require some regulation changes - whether or not people want to ship eggs to the US from Europe, I'm not sure if, for example, these countries wash their eggs like...
Realistically though it'll require some regulation changes - whether or not people want to ship eggs to the US from Europe, I'm not sure if, for example, these countries wash their eggs like America requires, if they do the egg expiration dates are shortened and now shipping them across the ocean is less ideal. If they don't they probably can't be imported in, etc.
Eggs are too perishable to really function like an international commodity in my non-expert opinion. The organic/free range/cage free etc eggs are however now price comparable, which should provide some competition (unless they're all owned by the same people ) at least until flu hits those farms, which will send those upwards too
I think this may be why they're looking specifically at Sweden, since they're one of the few countries that requires washing eggs. Most countries in the EU don't wash their eggs (and instead...
I'm not sure if, for example, these countries wash their eggs like America requires
The US egg industry works substantially differently to the EU. In the US, there's more lax regulation when it comes to the health and testing of the egg laying hens, hence the need to wash the...
The US egg industry works substantially differently to the EU.
In the US, there's more lax regulation when it comes to the health and testing of the egg laying hens, hence the need to wash the eggs. Removing the protective wax layer by washing means the eggs expire faster.
In the EU, there's more regulation and testing re: laying hens, so the eggs are virtually guaranteed to not have any issues. Eggs don't need to be washed, and thus have a longer shelf life.
I'm not sure why you replied to sparks here... The post you're replying to mentions all of that plus the fact that Sweden does require washing. Unless I'm misreading this and sparks is wrong about...
I'm not sure why you replied to sparks here... The post you're replying to mentions all of that plus the fact that Sweden does require washing. Unless I'm misreading this and sparks is wrong about Europe (I know I'd trust them over me.)
I am aware of these things and said as much in the comment you replied to. I linked to a pretty dry summary of EU egg regulations. I was pointing out that Sweden also washes eggs, despite this not...
I am aware of these things and said as much in the comment you replied to. I linked to a pretty dry summary of EU egg regulations. I was pointing out that Sweden also washes eggs, despite this not being allowed elsewhere in the EU, which could influence how easily they can be imported to the US, where washing eggs is mandatory.
That's correct. And also why the "drill baby drill" slogan is slumping oil prices rather than mooning stock. More product is flooding the markets. This is also only partially true. Induced...
That's correct. And also why the "drill baby drill" slogan is slumping oil prices rather than mooning stock. More product is flooding the markets.
When an industry starts profiting more from not producing than from producing, it’s a sign that something isn’t right.
This is also only partially true. Induced scarcity has always increased price. Foodstuffs are not exempt from this.
IIRC not all Japanese eggs are rated safe for raw consumption, that they do a heck of a lot of prevention checks and sanitization to make them safe....
IIRC not all Japanese eggs are rated safe for raw consumption, that they do a heck of a lot of prevention checks and sanitization to make them safe.
The original article says (per translate) that Swedish and Danish trade groups and producers were contacted with "Svenska Eggs" being just one group. The producer "Kronägg" was also one and...
The original article says (per translate) that Swedish and Danish trade groups and producers were contacted with "Svenska Eggs" being just one group. The producer "Kronägg" was also one and Norwegian producers were also contacted.
It's not super weird to frame this as "America asks Sweden for help" despite it not necessarily being specifically the Swedish government cited.
The obvious point of these headlines being that since the US is doing some hostile politics towards these countries, then it's hypocritical to reach out for help. It's 100% what all of the...
The obvious point of these headlines being that since the US is doing some hostile politics towards these countries, then it's hypocritical to reach out for help. It's 100% what all of the comments on reddit ended up being, god bless that website that cannot possibly stoop any lower in terms of quality of discussion. So yeah, I think it's very much done on purpose.
But that failure of international diplomacy definitely contributes to the attitude of folks internationality. If you asked many Canadians if they're inclined to ship us things to help out American...
But that failure of international diplomacy definitely contributes to the attitude of folks internationality. If you asked many Canadians if they're inclined to ship us things to help out American consumers or businesses right now, how many of them say the only thing they're shipping our way is the goose poop? I don't think the headline is inherently dishonest. Multiple Swedish (and Danish and Norwegian) groups were asked.
I'd personally still ship American people in need all the good things. But I am also going to boo loudly at Canadian businesses shipping anything like useful to your states. Sorry. May many angry...
I'd personally still ship American people in need all the good things. But I am also going to boo loudly at Canadian businesses shipping anything like useful to your states. Sorry. May many angry geese with rumbly tummies fly over the heads of your worst politicians.
I know, I certainly was thinking more of Canadian business owners ala the Swedish egg producers. But I appreciate your willingness to share the maple syrup reserves with friends, just not like the...
I know, I certainly was thinking more of Canadian business owners ala the Swedish egg producers. But I appreciate your willingness to share the maple syrup reserves with friends, just not like the country. Because as a country, we don't deserve maple syrup, we deserve fake ass pancake syrup. Please send the geese to the white house. Moose too if you're a fantasy druid.
Yeah don't blame them. If only we could ask Cana... ER Mexic.... Well.
It's almost like there's a reason why creating good will with our allies rather than strong arming them is the right move. Even if the import difficulties were ultimately insurmountable, they don't even have the inclination to assist, for understandable reasons.
I can’t believe we are at a point where we are considering transporting eggs over the Atlantic.
I know it’s mostly a talking point, but does everyone really eat this many eggs ? Before the bird flu and after, my egg consumption hasn’t changed. It was not a major point of sustenance for me. Heaven forbid we ask people to modify their behaviors in a time of crisis ?
I eat fewer eggs now, but they were a fairly cheap, low effort protein source for a lot of folks - not as much work as cooking meat or plant based options - and part of basically every fast food breakfast item, or meal prepped breakfast recipe.
But I also have about two dozen because I can easily cook 2-3 a day if I eat breakfast at home. And I have a habit of grabbing a dozen if I see a reasonable price.
That's the healthiest, smartest thing consumers could be doing. Eggs are great nutrition! But also just buy eggs when they're available and reasonably priced in your budget. It's all a disproportionate fuss. You see people hoarding eggs which is just crazy.
That's fair, when I was more into bodybuilding I definitely ate more eggs, cost to protein ratio/calorie ratio can't be beat (milk is up there too). Eggs are also a safe food for many and versatile.
There does seem to be a heavy obsession in the USA with eggs being a breakfast thing and breakfast being "the most important meal of the day" as well.
We do have an insistence here of X foods being "for breakfast." Half the appeal of things like "girl dinner" and charcuterie/butter boards is not needing to adhere to "rules" of dining.
hell yes! the smorgasbord as well! anything is a breakfast food if you eat it "at breakfast time." (including desserts, zing.)
I did not know there was a term like "girl dinner," but now realize this is how I always eat lol. It seems similar to "picky bits" if I'm not mistaken.
Girl dinner was a Tiktok trend that was started by rugby player Ilona Maher's sister Olivia actually.
With this sound getting attached to a lot of examples
Covered by the NYT (gift) Is It a Meal? A Snack? No, It’s ‘Girl Dinner.’
Described as "chaotic but filling" or no prep just vibes. Some vids are more like a piece of gum (concerning) or a nap (I get it I'm tired) but the gist was just chaos.
It's a step up from just eating the shredded cheese from the bag while standing in front of the fridge like a goblin. And it sort of spoke to the "I'm not "making" dinner for myself, I'm just throwing stuff together" feelings that many of us have. The point isn't calorie restriction or pickiness so much as eating what you want without prep. When I was in Ireland in college my gas station lunches were often a baguette and a hunk of Irish cheese. Less nutritionally ideal but I felt very Hobbit-esque.
There's also a useful therapy meme that points out if making a sandwich feels like a lot for ones depression or executive dysfunction, that eating the ham and the cheese and the bread on separately is equally valid. That idea can hit folks as a revelation sometimes!
Anyway I'm sorry for the word vomit, I just know a lot on this one 😅
On a side note, I'm finding it really weird how many people have begun describing their eating habits as "like a goblin". A recent Adam Ragusea video had his wife make broiler nachos and when asked how it would be served she said something like you lean over it and pick at it like a goblin. But I mean, yeah, that's kind of just how you eat nachos. It's not goblin-like at all.
It's just strange to me that people would dehumanize themselves like that. I can get that you might want to use it over the other popular idiomatic comparison, like a pig, but it actually feels worse because goblins are pretty solidly on the "evil" scale of mythical creatures.
I get that it's probably stemming from the phrase "goblin mode", but I've heard "like a goblin" many times more than that.
You're talking to some who LARPed as a "fuck no I'm not an elf, I have horns, do I look like I have a stick up my ass?" character alongside any number of goblins, orcs, animalkin, etc. and as an avid D&D player the "adopted goblin" is practically a trope for parties. "Dehumanizing" is not in my mind at all. Without table manners under the cover of darkness is. But I've LARPed and hung out with plenty of people who are furries for example (those animalkin in particular) and often "human" is not their goal.
They're often played more cute than "evil" (racial/ancestry alignment is passé). But also "Goblin Core" is an aesthetic about loving moss and bugs and mushrooms and collecting rocks - they go click clack - in a way that highlights less traditionally appealing biomes than cottage core. If you've ever seen anyone just grab a handful of rocks or a tiny frog from their pocket as a gift, you've found goblincore aesthetic. It's the bottom pic not the top.
So no, it's not an insult to myself, it's just acknowledging I'm shoveling a handful of cheese in my mouth, standing at the fridge, usually with no other light but the fridge light. Nothing else sounded good and I needed to eat SOMETHING because my stomach hurt
Someone I follow who has identified with this more than once is voice actor Erika Ishii
(Links to a variety of vids or gifs from different socials. )
ETA: oh and I'm not eating "like a pig" it's not the quantity or about being fat (I don't get down with fatphobic or food shaming), it's the manner in which one eats, and it's meant at worst in a bit of a "yeah I could at least have put the cheese in a bowl or something" way, and at best in a "goblins gonna goblin" way.
It doesn’t surprise me that I’m out of the loop, but it looks like I’m not even in orbit around the same sun anymore. 😕
Im not even middle aged yet….
Memes move quickly, I joke that I'm on Tiktok because it lets me know what the kids are saying (it's even more useful than that, but I work with college students.)
So funny thing, I read this comment a few hours ago and then, just now, came across this:
goblin manifesto -> https://maya.land/goblin
I hope you enjoy it as much as I did
Ah yes
They’re used in a ton of recipes too, many of which are not particularly compatible with egg substitutes (and even for those that are, substitutes can yield undesirable texture changes in the resulting food).
I've had pretty good luck with removing eggs from everything I've tried. The only ones where substitutes were not really acceptable are the ones that are built around eggs specifically (omelets, eggs benedict, etc).
But then again I never particularly cared for eggs to begin with.
Or add allergens! I have a family member allergic to eggs though she can eat brownies with an egg or two in them, she can't eat them solo or as the main component of the dish. So she still bakes with them. Eggs are useful little things.
I worked for a large logistics company with another large egg producer as a customer. The 2015 avian flu is what landed us that customer: we pitched importing eggs from Europe and executed it. Lots and lots of boats of eggs. The sourcing, transit, transfers between modes (road, rail, boat, air), food integrity, etc was bonkers.
But somehow it was worth it to that producer. Likely without that plan they would have lost their customers and been out of business.
Since then, they developed the ability to use those connections to continue shipping back to Europe. They sell many more egg WHITES in the US, and export the YOLK to Europe. Just a difference in attitudes about the different parts.
Eggs are used for many more things than just omelets, too.
???? So eggs boat into the country, get separated, and then the yolks ride back to Europe?!?!! What a crazy world we live in
Ah no, this is two different time periods. After the egg industry in the US stabilized, they were able to produce domestically (in the US). Then they utilized their new international shipping partners and experience to begin an export business.
I've massively cut my egg consumption but a few years ago I was buying the 60+ packs at the store. Cooking for more than one? Breakfast of at least 2 eggs per person. Dinner often had a fried rice scramble going on, so veggies and eggs included in that. Baking? Eggs a plenty.
I've modified my behavior plenty of times for many reasons but you'll find the average person puts a much higher importance on their status quo than adjusting to changes... See COVID and all that.
It's variable.
But often, when my kids are home we go through at least 4 eggs in a morning, sometimes more. Prior to all this, I've been buying 48 eggs for the month and we usually get through all of them by week 3.
Are they used a lot in industry? I feel like a lot of ready meals, and pasties and that tend to always include egg (stupid veganism!). So this would affect more than just consumers?
That being said it does seem as though populist does as populists do.
Locally I have seen a lot of bakeries discuss how the egg shortage is hitting them hard, so that's fair. But I'd also consider these baked items luxury items, enriched breads, and such.
Industry wise, I suppose some vaccines are also produced using eggs.
I did not have a lot of money after college., eggs and ramen were how i got by. While I personally still eat a good amount of eggs, their main contribution to society was being a cheap and nutritionally rich source.
As a side note: Eggs are used in everything as well. Bakers generally love eggs. Some recipes ain't the same without them stiff peaks.
I only buy the occasional couple of eggs for making custards. I don't really get the hype.
Take this with a grain of salt as I don’t know enough about the industry to validate this theory, but: https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/hatching-a-conspiracy-a-big-investigation
In that sense, getting competition from overseas could reign in the greedflation at work here.
Realistically though it'll require some regulation changes - whether or not people want to ship eggs to the US from Europe, I'm not sure if, for example, these countries wash their eggs like America requires, if they do the egg expiration dates are shortened and now shipping them across the ocean is less ideal. If they don't they probably can't be imported in, etc.
Eggs are too perishable to really function like an international commodity in my non-expert opinion. The organic/free range/cage free etc eggs are however now price comparable, which should provide some competition (unless they're all owned by the same people ) at least until flu hits those farms, which will send those upwards too
I think this may be why they're looking specifically at Sweden, since they're one of the few countries that requires washing eggs. Most countries in the EU don't wash their eggs (and instead mandate chickens be vaccinated for salmonella). EU food regulations actually prohibit grade A eggs (the kind allowed to be sold direct to consumers) from being washed, with Sweden being a weird exception.
The US egg industry works substantially differently to the EU.
In the US, there's more lax regulation when it comes to the health and testing of the egg laying hens, hence the need to wash the eggs. Removing the protective wax layer by washing means the eggs expire faster.
In the EU, there's more regulation and testing re: laying hens, so the eggs are virtually guaranteed to not have any issues. Eggs don't need to be washed, and thus have a longer shelf life.
I'm not sure why you replied to sparks here... The post you're replying to mentions all of that plus the fact that Sweden does require washing. Unless I'm misreading this and sparks is wrong about Europe (I know I'd trust them over me.)
I am aware of these things and said as much in the comment you replied to. I linked to a pretty dry summary of EU egg regulations. I was pointing out that Sweden also washes eggs, despite this not being allowed elsewhere in the EU, which could influence how easily they can be imported to the US, where washing eggs is mandatory.
Denmark and Norway were asked too though. And like i said that leaves eggs far less likely to survive the trip.
Ty for the info though!
That's correct. And also why the "drill baby drill" slogan is slumping oil prices rather than mooning stock. More product is flooding the markets.
This is also only partially true. Induced scarcity has always increased price. Foodstuffs are not exempt from this.
Let's get Japanese eggs instead. Safe enough to eat raw. At these egg prices, we should get the best quality eggs possible.
IIRC not all Japanese eggs are rated safe for raw consumption, that they do a heck of a lot of prevention checks and sanitization to make them safe.
https://www.sg.emb-japan.go.jp/JCC/E-Magazine-Jun-2023-Egg.html embassy: safe period is two weeks.
Probably a challenge to fly em over within two weeks and still be decently priced.
Especially given that Japan washes their eggs like the US does (and unlike Europe), meaning they'd probably need refrigeration in transport
I don't think it's honest to label that as "Sweden"...
The original article says (per translate) that Swedish and Danish trade groups and producers were contacted with "Svenska Eggs" being just one group. The producer "Kronägg" was also one and Norwegian producers were also contacted.
It's not super weird to frame this as "America asks Sweden for help" despite it not necessarily being specifically the Swedish government cited.
The obvious point of these headlines being that since the US is doing some hostile politics towards these countries, then it's hypocritical to reach out for help. It's 100% what all of the comments on reddit ended up being, god bless that website that cannot possibly stoop any lower in terms of quality of discussion. So yeah, I think it's very much done on purpose.
But that failure of international diplomacy definitely contributes to the attitude of folks internationality. If you asked many Canadians if they're inclined to ship us things to help out American consumers or businesses right now, how many of them say the only thing they're shipping our way is the goose poop? I don't think the headline is inherently dishonest. Multiple Swedish (and Danish and Norwegian) groups were asked.
I'd personally still ship American people in need all the good things. But I am also going to boo loudly at Canadian businesses shipping anything like useful to your states. Sorry. May many angry geese with rumbly tummies fly over the heads of your worst politicians.
I know, I certainly was thinking more of Canadian business owners ala the Swedish egg producers. But I appreciate your willingness to share the maple syrup reserves with friends, just not like the country. Because as a country, we don't deserve maple syrup, we deserve fake ass pancake syrup. Please send the geese to the white house. Moose too if you're a fantasy druid.
You know how owlbears are fearsome? Maybe our version is Goosebear: hiss-growl!
I maybe just encountered a goose-moose combo called a Goooose in a litrpg.
But honk/hiss-growl works too
Hmmm yeah I'm not sure if I'd rather encounter a moose or a bear... Bear might decide to hurt me. Moose might destroy me without even seeing I exist.
They also asked Danish egg producers, just to add for some title correction.