16 votes

After mainstream exposure, QAnon is starting to fracture

14 comments

  1. [10]
    Flashynuff
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    Here's the non-amp link. https://thinkprogress.org/after-mainstream-exposure-q-anon-is-starting-to-fracture-197314a16834/
    15 votes
    1. delicious_grownups
      Link Parent
      Thank you! I was wondering why it was such a janky link

      Thank you! I was wondering why it was such a janky link

      4 votes
    2. [8]
      dyyyl
      Link Parent
      Why do you want to avoid amp? I'm only vaguely familiar with it, doesn't it just cache pages for less latency on mobile?

      Why do you want to avoid amp? I'm only vaguely familiar with it, doesn't it just cache pages for less latency on mobile?

      1 vote
      1. [3]
        demifiend
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        Because AMP is step 2 of Google's embrace, extend, and extinguish plan for the World Wide Web.

        Why do you want to avoid amp?

        Because AMP is step 2 of Google's embrace, extend, and extinguish plan for the World Wide Web.

        18 votes
        1. [2]
          Neverland
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          I would argue that AMP pages themselves are not the problem, but google hosting them in their CDN is a huge problem. For example:...

          I would argue that AMP pages themselves are not the problem, but google hosting them in their CDN is a huge problem. For example: https://thinkprogress.org/after-mainstream-exposure-q-anon-is-starting-to-fracture-197314a16834/amp/ is not that big a problem, is it?

          2 votes
          1. demifiend
            Link Parent
            I would still object to AMP as unnecessary regardless of its origin. Why create the second coming of WML? The real problem is that corporate-owned websites go apeshit on analytics, ads, and...

            For example: https://thinkprogress.org/after-mainstream-exposure-q-anon-is-starting-to-fracture-197314a16834/amp/ is not that big a problem, is it?

            I would still object to AMP as unnecessary regardless of its origin. Why create the second coming of WML? The real problem is that corporate-owned websites go apeshit on analytics, ads, and auto-playing video, and this makes using them a shitty experience regardless of what sort of device or connection you're using.

            There's no reason a motherfucking website made with HTML5 can't be fast, responsive, and usable on a wide variety of platforms. There's no reason a motherfucking website built with HTML5 and a decent stylesheet can't be attractive and readable. And there's no reason whatsoever a motherfucking website can't be optimized and made safer to access using tools provided by Apache and nginx, like HTTPS and caching directives.

            AMP is a corporate-sponsored solution in search of a problem that competent web developer already know how to solve. Most web developers would love to put out accessible, responsive websites that load instantly, but editorial wants to use huge photographs, and marketing wants 69 different analytics scripts, ads everywhere, auto-playing video, and a newsletter signup modal before the page even finishes rendering.

            The only technological solution for such idiocy is the one invented by Mikhail Kalashnikov in 1947.

            6 votes
      2. [3]
        Flashynuff
        Link Parent
        I personally don't care as amp usually works well for me, but some folks (especially people on desktop) prefer the regular link.

        I personally don't care as amp usually works well for me, but some folks (especially people on desktop) prefer the regular link.

        4 votes
        1. [2]
          dyyyl
          Link Parent
          Cool beans! Thanks for the explanation, I never knew it could respond negatively to a desktop browser, but I just tried both and the non-amp link performs significantly better on my laptop.

          Cool beans! Thanks for the explanation, I never knew it could respond negatively to a desktop browser, but I just tried both and the non-amp link performs significantly better on my laptop.

          1. Flashynuff
            Link Parent
            It doesn't exactly display poorly on desktop, but it does pollute the URL with a bunch of crap that makes it more annoying to copy and paste elsewhere

            It doesn't exactly display poorly on desktop, but it does pollute the URL with a bunch of crap that makes it more annoying to copy and paste elsewhere

      3. Razorsoup
        Link Parent
        Because if it's a link to something that I have an app installed for, it takes extra effort to open the link in that app. For example, if this had been a reddit link, I'd prefer it to just open...

        Because if it's a link to something that I have an app installed for, it takes extra effort to open the link in that app. For example, if this had been a reddit link, I'd prefer it to just open directly in Boost. But it would instead open in the browser and I'd have to have extra clicks just to open it in my preferred app.

  2. delicious_grownups
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    And I couldn't be happier to watch this shit pile start to crumble. I've been following this bullshit cultism since October or November and I'm glad that it's getting widespread attention and...

    And I couldn't be happier to watch this shit pile start to crumble. I've been following this bullshit cultism since October or November and I'm glad that it's getting widespread attention and scrutiny, as I believe that will help to facilitate its downfall

    9 votes
  3. clerical_terrors
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    I guess sometimes sunlight really is the best disinfectant. I'm actually kind of happy it's breaking apart though, when people start holding up roads with armored vehicles you can't help but...

    I guess sometimes sunlight really is the best disinfectant. I'm actually kind of happy it's breaking apart though, when people start holding up roads with armored vehicles you can't help but wonder if somebody isn't going to get hurt at some point.

    8 votes
  4. Zekka
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    I'm pretty convinced it doesn't matter if reputable sources (or even somewhat disreputable but mainstream sources like Spicer) are disavowing QAnon. My best guess is that your average QAnon...

    I'm pretty convinced it doesn't matter if reputable sources (or even somewhat disreputable but mainstream sources like Spicer) are disavowing QAnon. My best guess is that your average QAnon supporter doesn't care what those sources would have to say.

    The thing that gives me some hope is that QAnon is semi incompatible with Mueller-is-unjustly-persecuting-Trump, a thing that a lot of QAnons also believe. It seems like the plot has kind of stagnated and gotten complicated, too.

    2 votes
  5. rkcr
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    This article talks of splintering, which implies pre-existing groups banded together, but it seems more like people who previously had zero knowledge of QAnon have now heard of it and think it's...

    This article talks of splintering, which implies pre-existing groups banded together, but it seems more like people who previously had zero knowledge of QAnon have now heard of it and think it's absurd.

    1 vote