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Alec Baldwin charged with involuntary manslaughter in Rust shooting

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    lou
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    Prosecutors uncovered reports of a criminal disregard for safety. Among other things, If true, that is highly incriminating.

    Prosecutors uncovered reports of a criminal disregard for safety. Among other things,

    Alec Baldwin was on the phone during firearms training for a movie where he fatally shot a cinematographer on set, prosecutors said, as they charged him with involuntary manslaughter.

    If true, that is highly incriminating.

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    1. cfabbro
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      IMO the most incrimination info was brought up by the LA Times way back when the accident first happened. Their article goes over the unsafe working conditions on set which resulted in the union...

      IMO the most incrimination info was brought up by the LA Times way back when the accident first happened. Their article goes over the unsafe working conditions on set which resulted in the union camera operators walking-off in protest shortly before the fatal shooting, and rather than address those issues the production company simply replaced them with non-union scabs so filming could continue. And it also talks about several other major firearms accidents that occurred on set prior to the fatal shooting, as well as all the other firearm safety protocols that were being ignored.

      And worth keeping in mind is that this movie was an El Dorado Pictures production, which is Alec Baldwin's company, so that's why I think he personally bears far more culpability than an ordinary actor would in a similar situation. Even if he hadn't been the one to actually pull the trigger, he was one of the people directly responsible for all the issues and conditions that ultimately lead to the fatal shooting accident.

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    2. arp242
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      The article is rather unclear; it says "training on how to operate the prop gun", but then in the next paragraph it says "performed mandatory safety checks with armourer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed". It...

      The article is rather unclear; it says "training on how to operate the prop gun", but then in the next paragraph it says "performed mandatory safety checks with armourer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed".

      It seems to me that a "training" and "safety check" are two very different things. A training is probably more akin to the flight safety instructions many of us have seen dozens of times and only barely pay attention to, and as a veteran actor Baldwin has probably seen such a training many times as well. A safety check however seems more akin to the visual inspection a pilot does before taking off.

      Aside from the other screw-ups mentioned in the article, the biggest question remains what live ammunition is even doing on the set at all and how does a gun get loaded with three blanks and one live round?! Especially since a similar accidental discharge (without injuries) occurred just days before?!

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  2. lou
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    60 Minutes Australia published an extensive segment on the case, with interviews, images from the set and the rescue (police body cams). It is very revealing and not an easy watch (no gore, it's...

    60 Minutes Australia published an extensive segment on the case, with interviews, images from the set and the rescue (police body cams). It is very revealing and not an easy watch (no gore, it's just emotionally taxing)

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