Heh, what a small world - I just snagged last-minute tickets about an hour ago to see their show tonight. Great teaser. (They've still got a few GA tix for sale if any interested ATX tildeans see...
Heh, what a small world - I just snagged last-minute tickets about an hour ago to see their show tonight. Great teaser.
(They've still got a few GA tix for sale if any interested ATX tildeans see this in time.)
Yeah, their music (and costumes, staging, etc) really is beautiful. I actually do listen to them reasonably often though, since I find their music incredibly meditative. So their LIFA concert,...
Yeah, their music (and costumes, staging, etc) really is beautiful. I actually do listen to them reasonably often though, since I find their music incredibly meditative. So their LIFA concert, along with the Gyuto Monks Tantric Choir, and Huun‐Huur‐Tu's KEXP concert are my go-tos for background music whenever I plan on meditating for an extended period of time.
What makes you think you'd be attacked at a Heilung show? They have a big pagan/neopagan audience, and while I certainly cannot speak for every single Heilung listener or pagan person (just me), I...
What makes you think you'd be attacked at a Heilung show?
They have a big pagan/neopagan audience, and while I certainly cannot speak for every single Heilung listener or pagan person (just me), I don't think that you'd have to fear violence at their shows and overall pagans kinda trend pretty liberal and open-minded.
Every live show I've seen from them online at least seems to be super chill with people just vibing and enjoying the show/music.
I actually wasn't aware of it myself, but after looking into it: They unfortunately, allegedly, have a small neonazi / white supremacist contingent among their fanbase (likely because of the...
I actually wasn't aware of it myself, but after looking into it: They unfortunately, allegedly, have a small neonazi / white supremacist contingent among their fanbase (likely because of the viking symbolism?)... But IMO those fans are ridiculously out-of-touch since the bandmembers themselves are essentially neo-pagan hippies, preaching about nature, and our shared human connection to it. They also even invited Native American tribe members to perform with them on their current tour in America. And the band have also repeatedly made statements about how hate speech, harassment, racism, etc is not tolerated by them. E.g.
A comment on politics
It has been put to the attention of the band that a woman of black color was harassed at one of our shows in New York. Apparently some people attended our ritual with the idea that Heilung is only for white people. This is not the case. Heilung is for ALL people, regardless of the color of the skin. And we are sorry that this happened at our show. We do not tolerate hate speech and racism. Anyone trying to fit the band into a political agenda of any sort has clearly not understood what Heilung is about. That includes but is certainly not limited to white supremacy. Heilung is none of it, and will have none of it. We do not tolerate display of divisiveness and hate in the audience at our rituals. Heilung is about something much older than today’s politics, which is why we do not include modern topics in our works. Heilung is about what brings us together. It’s about what we have in common, not what divides us. Heilung is about spirituality, history, nature and that one great being, that was always there, before people lived and named it.
Yea, I was aware that they stood against hate speech, harassment, racism, etc which is why I was confused by the other poster's comment. But that incident does add some context. As for pagans and...
Yea, I was aware that they stood against hate speech, harassment, racism, etc which is why I was confused by the other poster's comment. But that incident does add some context.
As for pagans and dealing with neonazis, there are people that tried (and continue to try) to co-opt the modern revival of Norse paganism and try to hijack it to make it racist or only about white people.
Religious organizations built around modern Norse paganism (heathens) have created charters or organizations to combat that - (HUAR - Heathens United Against Rascism, and TAC - The Asatru Communty, and more) that disavowed these types of people and actively fight to keep them out of those religions and to try to keep them from even getting in.
Yeah, I knew about that issue in Norse and Slavic neo-pagan circles, and probably should have made the connection earlier too. This whole problem sadly isn't new either though, unfortunately. I...
Yeah, I knew about that issue in Norse and Slavic neo-pagan circles, and probably should have made the connection earlier too. This whole problem sadly isn't new either though, unfortunately. I still remember Nazi Punks Fuck Off and other similar songs and statements from hardcore bands in the 80s when skinhead assholes tried to co-opt punk music too.
Heh, what a small world - I just snagged last-minute tickets about an hour ago to see their show tonight. Great teaser.
(They've still got a few GA tix for sale if any interested ATX tildeans see this in time.)
I don't listen to them often, but Heilung is beautiful. The sounds help clear my mind and relax me. Not something I'd have expected to enjoy.
Yeah, their music (and costumes, staging, etc) really is beautiful. I actually do listen to them reasonably often though, since I find their music incredibly meditative. So their LIFA concert, along with the Gyuto Monks Tantric Choir, and Huun‐Huur‐Tu's KEXP concert are my go-tos for background music whenever I plan on meditating for an extended period of time.
Would love to see them but also don't want to get hatecrimed lol.
What makes you think you'd be attacked at a Heilung show?
They have a big pagan/neopagan audience, and while I certainly cannot speak for every single Heilung listener or pagan person (just me), I don't think that you'd have to fear violence at their shows and overall pagans kinda trend pretty liberal and open-minded.
Every live show I've seen from them online at least seems to be super chill with people just vibing and enjoying the show/music.
I actually wasn't aware of it myself, but after looking into it: They unfortunately, allegedly, have a small neonazi / white supremacist contingent among their fanbase (likely because of the viking symbolism?)... But IMO those fans are ridiculously out-of-touch since the bandmembers themselves are essentially neo-pagan hippies, preaching about nature, and our shared human connection to it. They also even invited Native American tribe members to perform with them on their current tour in America. And the band have also repeatedly made statements about how hate speech, harassment, racism, etc is not tolerated by them. E.g.
https://www.facebook.com/amplifiedhistory/photos/a.595483987219647/2268838929884136/?type=3
cc: @UOUPv2
Yea, I was aware that they stood against hate speech, harassment, racism, etc which is why I was confused by the other poster's comment. But that incident does add some context.
As for pagans and dealing with neonazis, there are people that tried (and continue to try) to co-opt the modern revival of Norse paganism and try to hijack it to make it racist or only about white people.
Religious organizations built around modern Norse paganism (heathens) have created charters or organizations to combat that - (HUAR - Heathens United Against Rascism, and TAC - The Asatru Communty, and more) that disavowed these types of people and actively fight to keep them out of those religions and to try to keep them from even getting in.
Yeah, I knew about that issue in Norse and Slavic neo-pagan circles, and probably should have made the connection earlier too. This whole problem sadly isn't new either though, unfortunately. I still remember Nazi Punks Fuck Off and other similar songs and statements from hardcore bands in the 80s when skinhead assholes tried to co-opt punk music too.