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Former Scotland First Minister Nicola Sturgeon in custody after being arrested in connection with Scottish National Party investigation

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  1. [3]
    Kinkx
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    Hard to believe Sturgeon has ruined her reputation and legacy all over an extra few quid after being so respected on the world stage during the coronavirus response.

    Hard to believe Sturgeon has ruined her reputation and legacy all over an extra few quid after being so respected on the world stage during the coronavirus response.

    9 votes
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      JCPhoenix
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      Yeah, a 100k motorhome? That's it? That's large enough to cause people to look around for it, but also just small enough to be like "You ruined your life and possibly party for 100k?" I know the...

      Yeah, a 100k motorhome? That's it? That's large enough to cause people to look around for it, but also just small enough to be like "You ruined your life and possibly party for 100k?"

      I know the article also references a sum of 600k that's also missing, but even that seems relatively small. Any amount of corruption or misplaced public funds is bad. That should be investigated, absolutely. But just seems like paltry amounts, relatively speaking, to throw away ones lives for.

      I joke, but damn; go big home or go home. The latter being much preferred when it comes to public monies.

      7 votes
      1. alcimedes
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        People can get really weird and oddly stupid when it comes to money.

        People can get really weird and oddly stupid when it comes to money.

        1 vote
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    Corsy
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    This was pretty shocking, I always thought she was solid. Must be so disappointing to be one of her constituents right now

    This was pretty shocking, I always thought she was solid. Must be so disappointing to be one of her constituents right now

    3 votes
    1. anadem
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      Yes what a sad, sordid thing to happen. I left Scotland forty years ago but still love the idea of its independence. This will caste shade on the whole movement I fear

      Yes what a sad, sordid thing to happen. I left Scotland forty years ago but still love the idea of its independence. This will caste shade on the whole movement I fear

  3. oracle
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    BBC: Police release Nicola Sturgeon without charge The Times: Nicola Sturgeon arrest: ex-leader ‘distressed’ after 7-hour grilling The Guardian: Nicola Sturgeon released without charge pending...
    3 votes
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    AgnesNutter
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    This will need fact checking, but I believe in Scotland someone can only be questioned if they’re arrested. So while elsewhere an arrest would mean they have at least some evidence of guilt, in...

    This will need fact checking, but I believe in Scotland someone can only be questioned if they’re arrested. So while elsewhere an arrest would mean they have at least some evidence of guilt, in Scotland it just means you’re a suspect.

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      JCPhoenix
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      OK that makes more sense. I'm looking at the links that @oracle linked and was like "Wait, arrested but then released without charges??" Interesting that Scotland's law enforcement system is set...

      OK that makes more sense. I'm looking at the links that @oracle linked and was like "Wait, arrested but then released without charges??" Interesting that Scotland's law enforcement system is set up that way. I wonder why that is.

      2 votes
      1. SpruceWillis
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        Scots Law is ancient and a bit of a mish mash of different systems based on cultures that existed in what would become the modern borders of Scotland prior to the 1200's, along with influence from...

        Scots Law is ancient and a bit of a mish mash of different systems based on cultures that existed in what would become the modern borders of Scotland prior to the 1200's, along with influence from the English legal system due to the Act of Union and the tight relationship England and Scotland have had since as the two major components of the United Kingdom and finally European influence through the UK, and thus Scotland, via their membership of, and exit from, the EU which has created a monster of a legal system that's quite distinct from the rest of the UK and has some interesting quirks.

        Did you know that Scottish courts and juries can find defendants "Guilty", "Not Guilty" or... "Not Proven"?! You might think that "Not Proven" means the jury believes the defendant to be guilty but there's not enough evidence to prove it, and certainly that seems to be what it's used for by juries today, but technically it's incorrect. "Not Proven" and "Not Guilty" from a legal standpoint mean the exact same thing in Scots Law. However, the "Not Proven" verdict is being removed at some point in the near future.

        2 votes
    2. oracle
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      Yeah, I'm not an expert at all but Scots law has many unique quirks that are different from common law elsewhere.

      Yeah, I'm not an expert at all but Scots law has many unique quirks that are different from common law elsewhere.

      2 votes