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What Kavanaugh’s drinking tells us about his credibility

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  1. [13]
    spit-evil-olive-tips
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    This is in a similar vein as How We Know Brett Kavanaugh Is Lying, but focusing in on one specific subject (his drinking) and including details that have only come out in the past few days (like a...

    This is in a similar vein as How We Know Brett Kavanaugh Is Lying, but focusing in on one specific subject (his drinking) and including details that have only come out in the past few days (like a bar fight that got the cops called while he was in college).

    9 votes
    1. [11]
      Algernon_Asimov
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      Why did you use a different title to the one on the article?

      Why did you use a different title to the one on the article?

      3 votes
      1. [2]
        spit-evil-olive-tips
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        I copied the headline from the front page of Slate.

        I copied the headline from the front page of Slate.

        4 votes
        1. Algernon_Asimov
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          I figured it might be something like that. Thanks.

          I figured it might be something like that. Thanks.

          3 votes
      2. [8]
        cfabbro
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        Oof, yeah I didn't even notice that (since I have zero desire to read another opinion piece on this issue so didn't bother to read the article). That is a pretty heavily editorialized title. :(...

        Oof, yeah I didn't even notice that (since I have zero desire to read another opinion piece on this issue so didn't bother to read the article). That is a pretty heavily editorialized title. :(

        Paging @deimos, since this one should probably be edited back to the original article title, IMO.

        2 votes
        1. [2]
          spit-evil-olive-tips
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          Certainly open to a title change if you think it could be improved. The article itself is fairly unequivocal, but the main headline struck me as nondescript and wishy-washy. I copied the alternate...

          Certainly open to a title change if you think it could be improved. The article itself is fairly unequivocal, but the main headline struck me as nondescript and wishy-washy. I copied the alternate headline from the slate.com homepage instead because it seemed a better representation of the author's thesis.

          2 votes
          1. cfabbro
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            Ah... so Slate had two different titles for the article? Strange. https://i.imgur.com/PxrHvfZ.png That certainly seems to indicate it was the title at one point on the front page... although now...

            Ah... so Slate had two different titles for the article? Strange.

            https://i.imgur.com/PxrHvfZ.png

            That certainly seems to indicate it was the title at one point on the front page... although now when I check Slate.com it appears to be the same as the title on the article page. I guess someone on the editorial board gave them shit for it so they changed it to something more reasonable?

            1 vote
        2. [5]
          Algernon_Asimov
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          I knew that the ability to edit titles was restricted but I would have expected you, of all people, to be one of those select few people trusted to edit titles.

          since this one should probably be edited back to the original article title, IMO.

          I knew that the ability to edit titles was restricted but I would have expected you, of all people, to be one of those select few people trusted to edit titles.

          1 vote
          1. [4]
            cfabbro
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            Nope only Deimos can do it since I am pretty sure it requires a direct database edit to accomplish right now and there is no client-side feature to do it yet. It'll probably get added eventually...

            Nope only Deimos can do it since I am pretty sure it requires a direct database edit to accomplish right now and there is no client-side feature to do it yet. It'll probably get added eventually and more people potentially given access to that ability though.

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              Algernon_Asimov
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              No, Deimos can now delegate the ability to edit titles, just like editing tags and moving posts. But, unlike with those latter two abilities, the number of people who can edit titles is still very...

              No, Deimos can now delegate the ability to edit titles, just like editing tags and moving posts. But, unlike with those latter two abilities, the number of people who can edit titles is still very restricted.

              1 vote
              1. [2]
                cfabbro
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                Ah... I guess he can delegate more people to edit titles but just hasn't yet: https://tildes.net/~test/6hv/comment_label_testing#comment-1xc2

                Ah... I guess he can delegate more people to edit titles but just hasn't yet:

                https://tildes.net/~test/6hv/comment_label_testing#comment-1xc2

                cfabbro
                I don't think OP can change the title... AFAIK only Deimos can.

                Deimos
                Yeah, only me right now. I updated it.

                1 vote
                1. Algernon_Asimov
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                  Well, 1 is certainly a very restricted number!

                  Well, 1 is certainly a very restricted number!

                  1 vote
    2. cfabbro
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      off-topic but thanks for including the opinion tag. ;)

      off-topic but thanks for including the opinion tag. ;)

      2 votes
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    1. [7]
      Algernon_Asimov
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      If you read some of these previous articles about Brett Kavanaugh posted here on Tildes over the past few weeks, that should fill in a few gaps.

      If you read some of these previous articles about Brett Kavanaugh posted here on Tildes over the past few weeks, that should fill in a few gaps.

      6 votes
      1. [7]
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        1. [5]
          cfabbro
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          It's very much still a developing situation with lots of as yet unsubstantiated claims, so I don't know how good a summary anyone can really provide while being truly objective. But basically the...

          It's very much still a developing situation with lots of as yet unsubstantiated claims, so I don't know how good a summary anyone can really provide while being truly objective. But basically the new US Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, has been accused of being an excessive drinker and of committing assault/attempted rape. He testified before the Senate judiciary committee with mixed results and his confirmation has now been delayed so the FBI can investigate the claims made against him, although their power has apparently been quite limited in doing so. Basically it's a shitshow but par for the course these days as far as GOP nominees to positions of power are concerned.

          4 votes
          1. [5]
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            1. [2]
              EightRoundsRapid
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              Lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land. As a non US person I find it quite odd that judges are political appointments. To me, that taints the entire judicial system. When I see...

              Lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land.

              As a non US person I find it quite odd that judges are political appointments. To me, that taints the entire judicial system.

              When I see people saying "great, we're going to have a conservative court" or "wonderful, the court is going to be liberal" it disturbs me. I realise that a lot of places have politicised judicial systems, but for a country that markets itself as the Gold Standard of Democracy it seems a bit off.

              5 votes
              1. unknown user
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                I am not a US citizen or interested in politics but from what I have seen so far US is not a democracy at all. The electoral college thing has nothing to do. It isn't even a representative...

                I am not a US citizen or interested in politics but from what I have seen so far US is not a democracy at all. The electoral college thing has nothing to do. It isn't even a representative democracy, but an onion of representative layers, and the will of the people are at the mercy of people that constitute those layers. The only thing that is similar to a democracy is that some people vote for something.

                2 votes
            2. [2]
              cfabbro
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              NP... and that is not particularly easy to answer either because to understand the significance of SCOTUS you have to understand the US Federal court system as well. I am not a lawyer (or even...

              NP... and that is not particularly easy to answer either because to understand the significance of SCOTUS you have to understand the US Federal court system as well. I am not a lawyer (or even American) but I can give it a try:

              The Federal court system in the US has three tiers, District courts, Circuit courts and the Supreme court. District courts basically take first crack at most cases and their decisions can then potentially be appealed to the appropriate Circuit courts, whose decisions can then potentially be appealed to the Supreme court, who makes the final decision and sets the precedent which the "lower" courts are obliged to follow. It's way way way more complicated than that, especially when State court decisions are involved, but that's the very basics as far as I understand them.

              If you want to get a better sense of SCOTUS and the huge impact their rulings have, there is an absolutely fantastic and incredibly interesting podcast called "More Perfect" that I highly recommend checking out.

              4 votes
              1. [2]
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                1. EightRoundsRapid
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                  There have been some changes to hereditary peers and their entitlement to sit in the House of Lords, but not nearly enough, in my opinion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hereditary_peer

                  There have been some changes to hereditary peers and their entitlement to sit in the House of Lords, but not nearly enough, in my opinion

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hereditary_peer

                  4 votes
        2. Algernon_Asimov
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          If you won't read all those articles to learn about this situation, why should someone else read them for you?

          If you won't read all those articles to learn about this situation, why should someone else read them for you?

          2 votes