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Brexit: MPs vote to take control of Brexit process for indicative votes

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    alyaza
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    this has potential to work out quite well--if there's a majority for literally anything in the indicative votes, anyways. the problem of course is that there is not a lot to suggest there will be....

    this has potential to work out quite well--if there's a majority for literally anything in the indicative votes, anyways. the problem of course is that there is not a lot to suggest there will be. the house of commons has been pretty divided up to this point on every alternative plan to may's (and no deal), and unless they miraculously come to compromise in short order i do suspect that all this is going to do is eat up more clock without any definitive alternative managing to bubble up through the partisan chicanery and challenge the current status quo (which is essentially crashing out with no deal, since nobody wants may's deal).

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    1. 0d_billie
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      Letwin spoke quite a bit about his amendment yesterday, and even he agrees that it's not likely that a clear path forwards will become clear once the votes are had. It's more about the process,...

      Letwin spoke quite a bit about his amendment yesterday, and even he agrees that it's not likely that a clear path forwards will become clear once the votes are had. It's more about the process, and taking the first step towards finding something there is actually a majority for. I don't expect it to come to anything immediately, but by finding that there's a surprising number of MPs in favour of (for example) a Customs Union Brexit, and not that many more to persuade to get it over the line, it potentially illuminates a path out of this deadlock (that we've been in since December).

      Here's a long post on Reddit that outlines some of Letwin's opinions

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  2. minimaltyp0s
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    I read speculation somewhere the other day that May might have been playing the long game all along: she was Pro Remain to start with, but inherited a role to deliver Brexit. She's - either...

    I read speculation somewhere the other day that May might have been playing the long game all along: she was Pro Remain to start with, but inherited a role to deliver Brexit. She's - either through design or incompetence - gotten the situation to the point where the most sensible option might be to cancel the whole thing to protect everyone's basic self interests.

    So she delivers Remain, on a Brexit ticket, in the only way she possibly could with fomenting angry mobs by outright cancelling it.

    An interesting take on it, but not one I personally buy.

    At this point my friends and I have broadly stopped speculating about the outcome because it's impossible to see a clear way through.

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