I don't even understand the context for this. Why was the student directed to leave the campus for having her phone out in class? Surely that's an internal disciplinary matter, for which she...
I don't even understand the context for this. Why was the student directed to leave the campus for having her phone out in class? Surely that's an internal disciplinary matter, for which she should have been sent to the principal's office. Why are there security officers at a school? Why are the security officers dealing with a student without a teacher or other staff member present? Why are there police officers in a school (especially if there's already security staff there)? What sort of draconian regime are Chicago schools operating under that even allowed the circumstances for this interaction between an unarmed teenager and armed police officers to occur?
And why the fuck are all those other people just standing around watching someone get attacked without doing anything? Why isn't someone running to get a teacher? Why wasn't there a teacher present in the first place, dealing with this student who was under disciplinary action?
What the fuck is going on over there that schools are run like armed concentration camps and students just accept it as normal that a fellow student will be assaulted by police officers, and they all wander off because "there's nothing to see here, folks"?
I mean... I understand the idea of police brutality; we're not without our own police problems here in Australia (although nowhere near the level of America). But we don't put security officers and police officers in our schools.
Wow. That's two-thirds of all schools having an armed police presence. I... I... fuck. I can't even process that. I can understand that the police might react badly to other students jumping in to...
64% of high schools and 63% of middle schools in the United States have at least one officer on campus.
Wow. That's two-thirds of all schools having an armed police presence. I... I... fuck. I can't even process that.
If anyone would have stepped in to stop the officers, they would have been harmed, arrested, and charged as well, teachers included.
I can understand that the police might react badly to other students jumping in to the situation, but if a teacher turns up and says "What are you doing?" surely the officers would stop and respond to a voice of authority. After all, it's teachers (and principals) who are in charge at schools, not police.
I don't know how it is in Australia, but in the United States, the police, as an institution and as individuals, are largely feared more than anything else
There is definitely some concern about a few bad apples in the police force. We've had a few scandals involving excess force, and even some police brutality: as I type this, I'm remembering a video I saw recently where six police officers dragged a mentally disabled man out of his home and assaulted him on his front lawn with capsicum spray because he was uncooperative when they turned up on his doorstop after his psychiatrist had told them she was concerned for his welfare. There's a call for more transparency and higher standards - and better reviews conducted by an independent third-party rather than internal police divisions when negative incidents occur. Police are also responding to concerns by increasing the diversity of the force: employing more women, more non-white people, and more minorities, to reduce the macho "straight white bloke" culture within the force.
However, overall, people here will turn to police for help, rather than turn away in fear. This idea of being afraid of your own police force is something foreign (pun intended) to me.
From my experience they'll see it as a challenge to their authority and will not respond very kindly to the person interrupting. At least, the kind of police officer we see in this video tends to...
surely the officers would stop and respond to a voice of authority
From my experience they'll see it as a challenge to their authority and will not respond very kindly to the person interrupting. At least, the kind of police officer we see in this video tends to act in this fashion.
yeah, if you're the kind of police officer who's dragging people down the stairs for like no reason and stomping on them, some teacher telling you to fuck off probably isn't about to dissuade you...
yeah, if you're the kind of police officer who's dragging people down the stairs for like no reason and stomping on them, some teacher telling you to fuck off probably isn't about to dissuade you (especially considering that the teacher has literally no power in the situation), lol.
And this is really starting to bite us in the ass. The constant fear of police only makes communities less safe. It makes people less willing to reach out to the police if they have a problem. It...
And this is really starting to bite us in the ass. The constant fear of police only makes communities less safe. It makes people less willing to reach out to the police if they have a problem.
It leads to stuff like this. Where someone pretending to be a cop called 70 businesses and got them all to strip search their employees.
And it's why scams like the IRS callers are so successful.
honestly, armed police, metal detectors, and locked doors + IDs (and combinations thereof) aren't that unusual even in a lot of better off schools nowadays in america due to school shootings, but...
Why are there police officers in a school (especially if there's already security staff there)? What sort of draconian regime are Chicago schools operating under that even allowed the circumstances for this interaction between an unarmed teenager and armed police officers to occur?
I mean... I understand the idea of police brutality; we're not without our own police problems here in Australia (although nowhere near the level of America). But we don't put security officers and police officers in our schools.
honestly, armed police, metal detectors, and locked doors + IDs (and combinations thereof) aren't that unusual even in a lot of better off schools nowadays in america due to school shootings, but as i understand in the inner city/minority poor parts of chicago, it's mostly a response to things like gang violence. that said, you probably wouldn't see this even in a lot of other inner city schools--the chicago PD just happens to be particularly dogshit, and this is nowhere near the first time they've massively overreacted to something pretty minor.
as far as the other questions, i dunno. i'd imagine there's a procedure here, but the chicago PD isn't exactly well known for following that either (i mean, they even fucked up the procedure with jussie smollett's case, and that was a pretty big one where they had no business deviating).
chicago PD hasn't been making the best name for itself in the past few months between the shitshow that got a lot of rahm emmanuel's lackeys ousted in the recent elections, the jussie smollet...
chicago PD hasn't been making the best name for itself in the past few months between the shitshow that got a lot of rahm emmanuel's lackeys ousted in the recent elections, the jussie smollet case, now this, and i suspect that this case isn't going to really help their already abysmal image with the public now that bigger media outlets are picking up on it.
I don't even understand the context for this. Why was the student directed to leave the campus for having her phone out in class? Surely that's an internal disciplinary matter, for which she should have been sent to the principal's office. Why are there security officers at a school? Why are the security officers dealing with a student without a teacher or other staff member present? Why are there police officers in a school (especially if there's already security staff there)? What sort of draconian regime are Chicago schools operating under that even allowed the circumstances for this interaction between an unarmed teenager and armed police officers to occur?
And why the fuck are all those other people just standing around watching someone get attacked without doing anything? Why isn't someone running to get a teacher? Why wasn't there a teacher present in the first place, dealing with this student who was under disciplinary action?
What the fuck is going on over there that schools are run like armed concentration camps and students just accept it as normal that a fellow student will be assaulted by police officers, and they all wander off because "there's nothing to see here, folks"?
I mean... I understand the idea of police brutality; we're not without our own police problems here in Australia (although nowhere near the level of America). But we don't put security officers and police officers in our schools.
Wow. That's two-thirds of all schools having an armed police presence. I... I... fuck. I can't even process that.
I can understand that the police might react badly to other students jumping in to the situation, but if a teacher turns up and says "What are you doing?" surely the officers would stop and respond to a voice of authority. After all, it's teachers (and principals) who are in charge at schools, not police.
There is definitely some concern about a few bad apples in the police force. We've had a few scandals involving excess force, and even some police brutality: as I type this, I'm remembering a video I saw recently where six police officers dragged a mentally disabled man out of his home and assaulted him on his front lawn with capsicum spray because he was uncooperative when they turned up on his doorstop after his psychiatrist had told them she was concerned for his welfare. There's a call for more transparency and higher standards - and better reviews conducted by an independent third-party rather than internal police divisions when negative incidents occur. Police are also responding to concerns by increasing the diversity of the force: employing more women, more non-white people, and more minorities, to reduce the macho "straight white bloke" culture within the force.
However, overall, people here will turn to police for help, rather than turn away in fear. This idea of being afraid of your own police force is something foreign (pun intended) to me.
From my experience they'll see it as a challenge to their authority and will not respond very kindly to the person interrupting. At least, the kind of police officer we see in this video tends to act in this fashion.
yeah, if you're the kind of police officer who's dragging people down the stairs for like no reason and stomping on them, some teacher telling you to fuck off probably isn't about to dissuade you (especially considering that the teacher has literally no power in the situation), lol.
And this is really starting to bite us in the ass. The constant fear of police only makes communities less safe. It makes people less willing to reach out to the police if they have a problem.
It leads to stuff like this. Where someone pretending to be a cop called 70 businesses and got them all to strip search their employees.
And it's why scams like the IRS callers are so successful.
honestly, armed police, metal detectors, and locked doors + IDs (and combinations thereof) aren't that unusual even in a lot of better off schools nowadays in america due to school shootings, but as i understand in the inner city/minority poor parts of chicago, it's mostly a response to things like gang violence. that said, you probably wouldn't see this even in a lot of other inner city schools--the chicago PD just happens to be particularly dogshit, and this is nowhere near the first time they've massively overreacted to something pretty minor.
as far as the other questions, i dunno. i'd imagine there's a procedure here, but the chicago PD isn't exactly well known for following that either (i mean, they even fucked up the procedure with jussie smollett's case, and that was a pretty big one where they had no business deviating).
chicago PD hasn't been making the best name for itself in the past few months between the shitshow that got a lot of rahm emmanuel's lackeys ousted in the recent elections, the jussie smollet case, now this, and i suspect that this case isn't going to really help their already abysmal image with the public now that bigger media outlets are picking up on it.