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Comment on Medicine’s AI knowledge war heats up in ~health
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Comment on Elon Musk plans to take on Wikipedia with 'Grokipedia' in ~tech
Gaywallet Cool, AI powered pseudo-scientific racism backed by unlimited money what could go wrong?Cool, AI powered pseudo-scientific racism backed by unlimited money
what could go wrong?
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US State Attorneys Generals defend trans Americans in letter to Donald Trump’s Federal Trade Commission
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Comment on Charlie Kirk, Ezra Klein, and the cost of civility-theater liberalism in ~society
Gaywallet It's a nice sentiment and I agree with the author that we have a civic duty to treat discussion fairly, but it strikes me as drastically naive of the powers at play if they are calling on...- Exemplary
It's a nice sentiment and I agree with the author that we have a civic duty to treat discussion fairly, but it strikes me as drastically naive of the powers at play if they are calling on newsrooms, owned by the very billionaires profiting and benefiting from the current system; these very folks designed the semblance of a debate, or at least bought into it (quite literally if all they care about is the money it makes) and are not going to change their behavior - they simply have no incentive to.
The right has platforms for misinformation and hate and the erosion of critical thinking and democracy because the right owns these platforms. When they didn't have these platforms, they'd fall back on American ideas like "free speech" to demand platforms in places they should not have been granted platforms. The very idea of civility requires civic behavior, yet I have scarcely seen individuals measure someone's behavior and use it as a means to remove actors which aim to destroy or dismantle civic institutions. Just as we must learn to be intolerant of those who are intolerant, if we wish to have a civil society we need to learn to be intolerant of malicious actors both on the stage and on a more personal level.
This brings up the question of how does one manage to affect or dismantle such a hateful institution and reach these malicious actors? I believe we've tried, unsuccessfully, to give them a space and a voice. We tried being civil with them and they took every chance to erode that they could. We have a civic duty to deprive them of a voice, to impose harsher penalties in response to their hate, to remove them from the very society they wish to erode. Personally for me, that means simple exclusion - I refuse to give them my presence, my time, my voice or my thoughts. I will openly and unapologetically acknowledge the harm that has been caused and chastise those who align themselves with such hate and violence. When the people I love are being threatened with violence on the national stage (to say nothing of their day to day) the time is long past that we can talk about "ideological differences in policy". Everyone on the right gets to bear the responsibility of the actions of their leaders and anything short of open condemnation and actively doing what they can to remove this leadership is simply not enough.
If you are to ask for my opinion on the matter, I don't personally think that even that is enough. Nothing, short of luck, is poised to stop the current direction of the administration. The fascists have shown that they do not care for speech itself, listening to no one but themselves and bullying their way into power. They dismantle the institutions we created, because they do not care for and simply ignore the rules. We do not have strong mechanisms to remove those who ignore the rules, because we assumed that people would center the health of a society, of civility, over personal goals. But this is incorrect, their cares are centered on what directly affects them and their loved ones. They do not care of society at large because they wish to dismantle it and replace it. They seek to dismantle it with violence, but they are desperately scared of violence in return, only engaging in fights where the magnitude of their power is much greater. Thus, we know precisely what levers are available to us and what actions could stop their progress, yet we hold ourselves to standards the enemy refuses to acknowledge. We must extend the paradox of intolerance to be compatible with actions which we are currently uncomfortable with or we cannot effectively oppose their advance.
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Comment on JK Rowling dismisses Emma Watson as 'ignorant' over trans rights row in ~lgbt
Gaywallet As an aside - these kinds of actions, the continued harassment of trans people, are why these interactions are news worthy and why she's been mentioned dozens of times in the last few years. I...As an aside - these kinds of actions, the continued harassment of trans people, are why these interactions are news worthy and why she's been mentioned dozens of times in the last few years. I wish she would disappear from the news because I'm god awful tired of her, but until she stops spreading hate speech and stops her violent campaign against the individuals that she hates, her presence and continued blight on this world needs to be reported on. All of this has never been enough for people to stop supporting her work and giving her money, which she is redirecting to hurt others. People deserve to know they are indirectly funding her personal war on innocent people.
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JK Rowling dismisses Emma Watson as 'ignorant' over trans rights row
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US President Donald Trump’s National Security Presidential Memorandum 7 labels common beliefs as terrorism “indicators”
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Comment on The Buff Scammer, isolation, and the male loneliness epidemic in ~life.men
Gaywallet Since I work so heavily with statistics (in specific in healthcare) this didn't even occur to me - its very rare that statistics are so directly explainable, but rather a symptom for which a root...Responding with statistics about sexual assault perpetrators here ultimately carries the heavy implication that we shouldn't acknowledge that this is the result of society and how it trains men to be, but rather that it is something inherent to men that they cannot escape and should not try to.
Since I work so heavily with statistics (in specific in healthcare) this didn't even occur to me - its very rare that statistics are so directly explainable, but rather a symptom for which a root cause analysis is necessary. But this completely explains why some folks would be so much on the defensive! Thank you for this insight, it will certainly help me frame things in the future to avoid more conflict and have more productive conversations.
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Comment on The Buff Scammer, isolation, and the male loneliness epidemic in ~life.men
Gaywallet That's not what I said at all and I don't feel like you've been treating what I've been saying in good faith. A hugely important point! and something we should talk a lot about, but we're talking...treating all men as potential threats
That's not what I said at all and I don't feel like you've been treating what I've been saying in good faith.
why don't you also mention systemic sexism?
A hugely important point! and something we should talk a lot about, but we're talking specifically about sexual predation here and important information for people to have.
When the vast majority of men are not predators, it's ridiculous to paint them all and make all of them suffer
That's not what I'm arguing at all, and I never did. I really don't like you painting my intentions with a broad brush or attributing malice to what I'm saying just because there are bad actors out there who do.
The solution is not more stereotyping!
Can you please help me understand where I suggested that we should be stereotyping individuals? Or that we should be attributing cause or intent to specific individuals based on observations of statistics? I'm at a loss from where you got this intent out of my replies.
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Comment on The Buff Scammer, isolation, and the male loneliness epidemic in ~life.men
Gaywallet That's really not a fair analogy because "science" done in that way is done with clear bias aimed at increasing racism. It also doesn't play out unless we're talking about crime statistics, and...That's really not a fair analogy because "science" done in that way is done with clear bias aimed at increasing racism. It also doesn't play out unless we're talking about crime statistics, and clear literature shows that's an outcome of systemic racism and choosing to incarcerate black men, for example, at higher rates. It's entirely unfair to paint this as a right wing talking point, because for one right wing people do not quote male violent crime statistics (they are targeted at the groups they are being bigoted towards), but more importantly this is about protecting people from real tangible harms that we can measure and have done a pretty good job of eliminating bias around. It's an unfortunate reality of the world and likely mostly a side effect of the patriarchy and cultural norms but being dismissive of protecting people from reality to save the feelings of men seems rather short-sighted to me.
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Comment on The Buff Scammer, isolation, and the male loneliness epidemic in ~life.men
Gaywallet Oh okay, yea that's totally understandable... but it also seems impossible to escape for literally any human? There will always be someone who hates my group and thus gives me the opportunity to...I’m saying that being able to climb no higher than “one of the good ones” sucks, and in light of that I’d rather not be part of the group at all. But that’s not an option, nor is ceasing to use “men” as a categorical grouping at all, so I don’t really have a conclusion.
Oh okay, yea that's totally understandable... but it also seems impossible to escape for literally any human? There will always be someone who hates my group and thus gives me the opportunity to be "one of the good ones", no matter what that group is. That group could be something I was simply born with (like gender or race) or it could be something more innocuous like the fact that I enjoy pineapple on pizza. Perhaps it's because I'm autistic, but I don't really see the difference between the various characteristics that one could be discriminated against by as making any one characteristic more unique or more hurtful, but I do agree that it certainly doesn't feel good for others to have such limited views of the world, strong preconceptions, or simply be wording things in a way that hurts on first brush.
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Comment on The Buff Scammer, isolation, and the male loneliness epidemic in ~life.men
Gaywallet I certainly don't have the entire context, but it sounds like they were being some level of vulnerable with you? Like if they thought you were exhibiting this behavior or bore any responsibility...After reflection, I think the criticism I got from third parties had more to do with general bad man behaviors that I don't feel I was exhibiting, but ended up bearing the responsibility for anyway. But for weeks after the criticism, I felt hurt because.. what did I as an individual do wrong?
I certainly don't have the entire context, but it sounds like they were being some level of vulnerable with you? Like if they thought you were exhibiting this behavior or bore any responsibility for it, they probably wouldn't have shared this information with you? It sounds like you feel like a safe space for them to vent about something that was bothering them. It sucks that there happens to be an overlap with your identity, but I genuinely think they may not have been even considering that when they vented.
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Comment on The Buff Scammer, isolation, and the male loneliness epidemic in ~life.men
Gaywallet It's complicated, because that attribute is important in the context of building awareness and arming women with the knowledge they need to prepare, defend, and ward themselves from sexual...And since that’s always going to be the case with grouping on a characteristic or attribute rather than an action, maybe talking about the actions in the context of the attribute isn’t a great thing to do?
It's complicated, because that attribute is important in the context of building awareness and arming women with the knowledge they need to prepare, defend, and ward themselves from sexual predation. As I stated elsewhere in my comment, I think the devil is in the details here, and I think you bring up the crux of the problem well when you stated the following:
The top comment was a thoughtful and heartfelt one that strongly acknowledged the genuine harm done by some men, but expressed sadness for what this means about the perception of male sexuality.
Balanced messaging and hedging are extremely important, at least in my view, when we make any statements that are negative about a group of individuals. I hate that we need to state it because it's simply not what the words are saying, but we do need to state "not all men" when we talk about the statistically average man and the same is true when we talk about any other group and broad statistical trends. This can be sidestepped, at times, by contrasting pros and cons as the author at the top did and you highlighted, as it's another way to recognize that it's a complicated issue and we're trying to focus in on the problems rather than the individuals and we're not interested in placing blame anywhere so much as we are trying to discuss a complex topic.
However, I disagree with your following take:
a direct reply about the statistics absolutely didn’t read as an effort to protect or educate those who can benefit from knowing the information. It read as, essentially, “no, people are right to have a negative view of male sexuality and these numbers prove it, we’ve got to just live with that”.
because their comment on statistics is immediately followed by the following text
Of course most men are not predators
This seems to be exactly the counter-balancing you asked for in your replies, yet it seems to either have gone wholly unnoticed or it wasn't enough. Which makes me wonder, how could they have changed their messaging? Did they not hedge their comment enough for you to realize they aren't throwing all men under the bus? Did they need to expand their viewpoint in more depth for you to realize they are talking about the problem and not the individual and that they are not trying to cast blame on you or any men in specific but rather statistically characterizing the problem?
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Comment on The Buff Scammer, isolation, and the male loneliness epidemic in ~life.men
Gaywallet Thank you for your perspective. I agree that we need to be paying attention to the balance of messaging when and where we can.Thank you for your perspective. I agree that we need to be paying attention to the balance of messaging when and where we can.
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Comment on The Buff Scammer, isolation, and the male loneliness epidemic in ~life.men
Gaywallet Curious to hear your thoughts on similar veins of thought. Does it hurt to be reminded that you descend from individuals who've killed other humans to steal their land and resources? Does it hurt...- Exemplary
It just hurts to so often be reminded that the group we're part of, whether we want to be or not, is the bad group.
Curious to hear your thoughts on similar veins of thought. Does it hurt to be reminded that you descend from individuals who've killed other humans to steal their land and resources? Does it hurt to be reminded that your government is responsible for the murder of untold numbers of civilians? That it used to condone slavery? That it had periods of time of deep regression, sexism, racism, homophobia? That it may have interfered with the governance of other countries, or gone to war and killed them? Does it hurt to be reminded that you are a member of humanity, which has committed countless untold atrocities on other humans and life on this planet? Where does the line stop - how close to the group do you have to be for it to be painful that there are bad actors?
If being reminded of that is a price we have to pay to counter the actual, larger, systematic harms then it's a price I'd absolutely say is worth paying. But I don't know if it is a necessity.
In the context it was brought up here, it was an explanation for why women in particular, who suffer proportionally excessive sexual crime, are taught to keep an eye on and be wary of men specifically as a defensive mechanism to protect themselves. Would you rather we not educate women on how to keep themselves safe in order to prevent men from being hurt by the reminder that the group they are part of commits more sexual crimes? I'm genuinely interested if you have any notes on how to improve this interaction, because some women need to understand the gravity of threat in order to treat it as an actual threat.
To be clear here, I have sympathy for the feelings of hurt that come along with being confronted with statistics and sayings like the ones mentioned above. I understand why it pushes some men to become reactionary and fall down altright rabbit holes. But I also don't think it's fair to blame that on the statements themselves, drawing attention away from the malicious actors in the space- the organized altright domestic terrorist grooming circles which have existed for decades. It is absolutely right, however, to point out that we need to be careful about how we approach these topics and that we are cognizant of the atmosphere the dominance of negatively framed statements can have on the psyche of a fragile individual. We need to be careful to balance messaging with positively framed statements if we are trying to work towards a future in which we can both recognize systemic harm, arm individuals with the information they need to defend and protect themselves, and teach young men how to be more resilient to toxic violent messaging.
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Comment on Jimmy Kimmel to return to ABC on Tuesday after show’s controversial suspension in ~tv
Gaywallet It would be a good bit to donate exactly $.02 thoughI feel confident Kimmel would not do such a thing, but goddamn. That's... really something.
It would be a good bit to donate exactly $.02 though
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Comment on Weekly US politics news and updates thread - week of September 22 in ~society
Gaywallet I mean, that's entirely Trump's MO and it always has been. He sets up houses of cards, robs everyone beneath him and lets them collapse. He even managed to bankrupt a casino (and made a lot of...it's mind boggling how the administration has managed to screw over just about everybody
I mean, that's entirely Trump's MO and it always has been. He sets up houses of cards, robs everyone beneath him and lets them collapse. He even managed to bankrupt a casino (and made a lot of money doing it)! I am entirely unsurprised that his style of business/capitalism has continued to flourish and thrive in an increasingly deregulated environment and that he's doing this to the entire American public.
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US FBI readies new war on trans people
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Comment on Charlie Kirk shooting: US President Donald Trump says suspect in custody in ~society
Gaywallet Because they already are? I don't see how this changes anything.Why do I get the feeling that furries, gamers, radical leftists and the LGBTQ community are going to come under the Trump administration's crosshairs?
Because they already are? I don't see how this changes anything.
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Comment on We risk a deluge of AI-written ‘science’ pushing corporate interests in ~science
Gaywallet Yup, that's why a lot of more prestigious journals have moved to this model. But there's still plenty of large journals out there which don't require it. Or they'll preregister with a dozen...Preregistration would discourage that sort of blatant gaming where they fund lots of studies
Yup, that's why a lot of more prestigious journals have moved to this model. But there's still plenty of large journals out there which don't require it. Or they'll preregister with a dozen different journals and just publish the ones with the finding they want. It's hard to prove anyone is doing this, but you could also just run 20 studies when you preregister only 1 and trash the data from the rest - if they all have the same methodology and you're just hoping to hit statistical chance, how would anyone know any better?
It seems like it would be hard to keep secret even without preregistration, if there are a lot of people involved in these studies?
I mean like, it's completely normal to just not publish if you find nothing of note and you're backed by a corporation. When we think of academia they publish with no findings because the funding has already been secured and there's no reason for them not to but ultimately if a company gets to decides whether you publish or not because they control your pay and thus what you work on (they instruct you to spend your time on another research project and not publishing/finishing up a paper), there's really few mechanisms to control this.
There's extensive use of AI in healthcare and has been for ages. Radiology has been leading the field for quite some time, as images are a great use-case for pattern recognition. Of note, they've been using AI since before LLMs existed - these are not LLM prompted models like the vast majority of mainstream "AI" is. Here's a paper from a few years ago that touches on a high level some of the AI use-cases in healthcare, which I think is an important starting point. Of note, it's highly important in drug discovery and understanding genomics as well (protein folding a huge example from this space).
I think it's important to come from this viewpoint when we talk about AI in healthcare, because approximately 99% of the time, we're not talking about LLMs. We're talking about pattern recognition tools, trained on the data they are attempting to draw a pattern from. The outputs are numbers, not text, and they are not prone to quite the same issues that LLMs are, and we're not confusing them with "thinking".
With that being said, healthcare is extremely complicated, deals with every kind of data imaginable, and also involves a good amount of human interfacing and thus there are LLM applications as well. For example, in our system, we have an LLM specifically for drafting responses to patients in the digital health record app that we have. It proposes a templated response in certain circumstances. In our testing and stand-up of this tool, it was incredibly important to center the physician in the interaction - it was designed to save them work and to be entirely controllable by them. Ultimately we found it saved very little time (a statistically insignificant amount of time and an amount of rather low magnitude) but was positively rated by the clinicians because it reduced the cognitive burden of writing a response.
Another example that we're trying to pilot is again a human-centered design- we're looking into whether prompted LLMs can help summarize SAFE events (narrative heavy reports that surmise issues like non-compliance with standard processes) and to help standardize the documentation. Ultimately a human always sees the full original report, but they are also presented with a pre-completed form where they can confirm the items are correct or correct that which is incorrect or hallucinated.
In the non-LLM field of things, there's a ton of patient prediction and models for things like estimating patient clinical complexity, identifying and fast-tracking individuals based on dermatology pictures for rapid referral if cancer is suspected, identifying and readying patients who are more likely to be discharged today, and so on. These kinds of models often predate LLMs, but are certainly still regularly under development because they help to identify opportunity - be it through improved clinical care, improved access, reduced cost, or some other metric.