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Taiwan’s ‘born independent’ millennials are becoming Xi Jinping’s lost generation

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  1. [8]
    Bullmaestro
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    Xi Jinping's hands really are tied when it comes to both Hong Kong and Taiwan. By stirring up the pot with the extradition bill, he's driven both territories against the mainland and world opinion...

    Xi Jinping's hands really are tied when it comes to both Hong Kong and Taiwan. By stirring up the pot with the extradition bill, he's driven both territories against the mainland and world opinion against China.

    So what can he really do? A military response would quickly lead to worldwide condemnation, international sanctions, and even potentially war as the United States has a vested interest in both Taiwan and Hong Kong. Either way the economy will suffer because both territories are strong economies in their own right; plus HK is the gateway into the Chinese market.

    Xi could also back down and grant the people of Hong Kong and Taiwan what they want. But then he would appear to be a weak leader and would be usurped faster than Khrushchev.

    8 votes
    1. [6]
      timo
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      Many suspected China to slowly assimilate Hong Kong, possibly taking decades. Maybe that would even mean China becoming a bit more like Hong Kong. But it seems they were much too eager, which...

      Many suspected China to slowly assimilate Hong Kong, possibly taking decades. Maybe that would even mean China becoming a bit more like Hong Kong. But it seems they were much too eager, which resulted in heavy opposition from Hong Kong's citizens. If China backs down from Hong Kong and gives in a little bit, the damage has already been done. This yead has probably made an entire generation of Hong Kongers distrust China, for quite some time.

      7 votes
      1. [5]
        Bullmaestro
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        They agreed to keep Hong Kong autonomous until at least 2047 under the Sino-British Joint Declaration. Their recent actions are in clear breach of this.

        They agreed to keep Hong Kong autonomous until at least 2047 under the Sino-British Joint Declaration. Their recent actions are in clear breach of this.

        5 votes
        1. [4]
          Loire
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          I hate to be cynical but declarations are meaningless without the force to enact them. The Sino-British Declaration is nothing but a piece of paper as long as the other world powers sre willing to...

          I hate to be cynical but declarations are meaningless without the force to enact them. The Sino-British Declaration is nothing but a piece of paper as long as the other world powers sre willing to appease China. The Chinese have reached America levels of power they can do whatever the hell they want and nobody is willing to intervene.

          4 votes
          1. [3]
            MimicSquid
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            They are not meaningless. If violated, it gives the world something to point at as proof that China won't keep it's word as soon as it benefits it to do something different. Even if there isn't...

            They are not meaningless. If violated, it gives the world something to point at as proof that China won't keep it's word as soon as it benefits it to do something different. Even if there isn't direct reprisal, trust does matter.

            4 votes
            1. [2]
              Loire
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              Do you have examples of "pointing" working in the past on a nation of China's calibre? Because I can point out a number of instances where it was meaningless until backed with the threat of force.

              Do you have examples of "pointing" working in the past on a nation of China's calibre? Because I can point out a number of instances where it was meaningless until backed with the threat of force.

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              1. MimicSquid
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                Unfortunately not. It's difficult to point out deals not made and alliances not formed.

                Unfortunately not. It's difficult to point out deals not made and alliances not formed.

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    2. est
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      I think the bill is irrelevant. HK has been protesting for years the bill just happens to the last straw in the camel's back.

      By stirring up the pot with the extradition bill

      I think the bill is irrelevant. HK has been protesting for years the bill just happens to the last straw in the camel's back.

      3 votes
  2. [3]
    Leonidas
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    Would someone be able to post the text from the article? I tried plugging the link into outline.com but it didn't work.

    Would someone be able to post the text from the article? I tried plugging the link into outline.com but it didn't work.