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Wyoming high court rejects state abortion ban with thoughtful opinion

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  1. boxer_dogs_dance
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    Wyoming’s amendment begins by granting every adult this sweeping right to make their own health care decisions, and it shields that right from “undue government infringement.” Everybody ignored that this was part of the state constitution until the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in 2022. Then the Wyoming Legislature passed a ban on virtually all abortions at every stage of pregnancy. A group of doctors sued and said: These abortion bans violate the right to medical decisionmaking secured in our state constitution. And on Tuesday, the Wyoming Supreme Court said they were correct....

    the key move here is the court’s holding that terminating a pregnancy is a health care decision. The state of Wyoming argued that it wasn’t. It said: Abortion isn’t health care, so it doesn’t fall under this provision whatsoever. And the majority said that that was wrong; given the often detrimental impact of pregnancy on an individual’s health, the choice to terminate is clearly a health care decision. That means all restrictions on it must be narrowly tailored to serve a compelling interest....

    The court held that Wyoming’s ban was not narrowly tailored to protect “fetal life.” And it did so by pointing to its lack of meaningful, coherent exceptions. So, for instance, state law allows termination for lethal fetal defects only if the baby would die within hours or days of birth. But the plaintiffs had doctors testify that they could not know for certain whether an infant with these defects would live for days, weeks, or maybe even a few months before suffering a painful death. So the majority said: Look, it’s illogical for the state to make patients carry a doomed high-risk pregnancy just because that infant might live a few more days or a few more weeks before inevitably dying. In legal terms, the law was tailored in a very arbitrary way, seemingly to prolong the suffering of women, as well as fetuses who were not going to survive if they were born.

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    gary
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    A ray of sunshine. Are we getting to the inflection point on abortion where, like gay marriage, it was villainized, accepted in blue states, before it suddenly became universally* accepted? A...

    A ray of sunshine. Are we getting to the inflection point on abortion where, like gay marriage, it was villainized, accepted in blue states, before it suddenly became universally* accepted? A panel of five Republican judges striking down an abortion ban is extraordinary.

    * Well, as universal as anything can realistically get.

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    1. boxer_dogs_dance
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      I don't think we are nearly there, but I'm happy for the local win. I'm likewise happy for the legal reasoning that acknowledges the health risks related to pregnancy and giving birth.

      I don't think we are nearly there, but I'm happy for the local win. I'm likewise happy for the legal reasoning that acknowledges the health risks related to pregnancy and giving birth.

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    2. vord
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      I think you are vastly over-estimating the amount of acceptance of gay marriage. I do think that gay marriage is a thorny enough of a legal issue for the conservatives that they can't retcon legal...

      I think you are vastly over-estimating the amount of acceptance of gay marriage.

      I do think that gay marriage is a thorny enough of a legal issue for the conservatives that they can't retcon legal proceedings and logic half as easily as they did with Roe.

      That's why they moved on to attacking trans people.

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    unkz
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    It sounds like the law is mostly ok (constitutionally, not ethically) but needs to be more tightly tailored. The examples given were definitely on the medical necessity side as opposed to the...

    It sounds like the law is mostly ok (constitutionally, not ethically) but needs to be more tightly tailored. The examples given were definitely on the medical necessity side as opposed to the “elective” (I don’t know what else you’d call it, but don’t jump on my phrasing, I 100% support abortion under literally any circumstances or justifications) side. I assume the legislature will run this one back.

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    1. vord
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      I don't think conservatives grok that nobody wants an abortion. It's not exactly a pleasant process. I think the closest I could come is "needs-based" abortion. Anybody who is seriously...

      I don't think conservatives grok that nobody wants an abortion. It's not exactly a pleasant process.

      I think the closest I could come is "needs-based" abortion. Anybody who is seriously considering one outside of pure medical neccessity is certainly spending some considerable thought into what that child's future life would be like.

      Even if you imagine all the vainest, shallowest, sociopathic 'doing it for themselves' reasons for abortion....would you even want that person using them to be raising a child?

      Betcha suicide rates would be a lot lower if unwanted children were not born, instead of completely neglected and abused after the fact.

      6 votes