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Interview with Lydia Love, one of Bryon Noem's regular camgirls

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  1. [12]
    Grzmot
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    Some background info: Bryon Noem is the husband of Kristi Noem, who was the secretary of homeland security from 2025 to 2026. She's been rightfully criticized for overseeing the ongoing...

    Some background info:

    Bryon Noem is the husband of Kristi Noem, who was the secretary of homeland security from 2025 to 2026. She's been rightfully criticized for overseeing the ongoing facistification of ICE and its raids on American cities and arrests and deportations of legal and illegal immigrants and in some cases even US citizens because that's how bad things are nowadays.

    Turns out that her husband is really into wearing huge silicone knockers and being sissified. These photos leaked a while back and this is an interview with at least one of the callgirls that facilitated it.

    Disclaimer: I'm not really into US politics that much given it's a different continent and an incredible clusterfuck. This is my best summary of what she's done. I'm sure I've forgotten some things. She's horrible.

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    1. [11]
      DefinitelyNotAFae
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      I dislike the exposure of people's private lives, with the exception being when the person is a figure explicitly infringing on the rights of people with the same sorts of interests, activities or...

      I dislike the exposure of people's private lives, with the exception being when the person is a figure explicitly infringing on the rights of people with the same sorts of interests, activities or inclinations.

      I think Bryon Noem is not on the "fair game" side of the line. And I don't like seeing it framed as a "look at this freak" as most of the Internet has done, rather than "look at the hypocrisy" because being into this shit is fine.

      I may or may not watch this, I'm thinking about it.

      9 votes
      1. [10]
        Grzmot
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        That's absolutely a valid opinion to have. I'm of two minds about it. On one hand, it's a fucking joke how often this hipocrisy happens: someone denouncing a kink, a sexuality, a gender identity...

        That's absolutely a valid opinion to have. I'm of two minds about it. On one hand, it's a fucking joke how often this hipocrisy happens: someone denouncing a kink, a sexuality, a gender identity in public while being (into) it in private. The meme that Grindr crashes every time there's a Republican event somewhere is one for a reason.

        On the other hand, these people are actively making a lot of lives worse and while you're right, Noem's husband isn't a public figure at all and it's questionable how much this would personally impact her given that none of these people seem to live fulfilling loving marriages, it might at the very least impact her political career. A little bit. I guess the next grifting idiot while come around, or maybe MAGA won't care in the same way that they have not cared about their president's multiple marriages or JD Vance getting it on with Charlie Kirk's widow while her late husband's body was still warm.

        I don't know. This is a 90 min interview and a lot of other things come up, but Lydia Love is also asked why she decided to go public with this and she states that he is fair game. I think things like this will continue while people feel powerless to actually do something about the current US government.

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          DefinitelyNotAFae
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          Yeah I mean I get it and I'm not sure that the initial exposure vs ongoing exposure is even necessarily on the same side of that line I have. Her job was impacted, although how much of that was a...

          Yeah I mean I get it and I'm not sure that the initial exposure vs ongoing exposure is even necessarily on the same side of that line I have. Her job was impacted, although how much of that was a blatant affair and apparently obvious corruption she couldn't hide anymore vs this reveal, idk. She's allegedly got another job in the admin? But it doesn't mean anything so... Idk.

          But it feels like it's feeding the sex-negative, anti sex worker, anti-queer, narratives rather than exposing hypocrisy and supporting the pro side of those narratives instead.

          But much like the WHCD incident, I think you're right that as people feel helpless they'll do this sort of thing because it's all they can do. At the same time, some people just want to hurt other people. So...yeah it's a mix of feelings about all of it.

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            Grzmot
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            I think this interview, given its meandering pace and scope, does a good job at also bringing up sex positivity vs sex negativity, addiction, queerness etc. They at one point just go off and talk...

            I think this interview, given its meandering pace and scope, does a good job at also bringing up sex positivity vs sex negativity, addiction, queerness etc.

            They at one point just go off and talk about growing up in a small conservative town and such. I understand where you're coming from and I think that content and discussions pushing only negatives are around, but at least in this particular case they tackle it and it feels pretty positive. A lot of the interview is dedicated to her decision to reveal herself as one of his providers. She is mind you, not the person who leaked the photos initially.

            But again, I understand your apprehension on the topic, especially how the initial points of such a discussion can shift over time and go turn 180°.

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            1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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              That's fair. My focus is definitely about the framing of the headline and that particular part of the story, and obviously I haven't seen the content. Given that I'm at work, it'll be a while...

              That's fair. My focus is definitely about the framing of the headline and that particular part of the story, and obviously I haven't seen the content. Given that I'm at work, it'll be a while before I can anyway.

              But it does make me a bit more optimistic that it's not the only focus of things.

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            redwall_hp
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            Add in first and fourth amendment issues, and you have a bingo card of things that drive me crazy when people suddenly take the mask off about whenever it suits their ends. I dislike how many...

            But it feels like it's feeding the sex-negative, anti sex worker, anti-queer, narratives rather than exposing hypocrisy and supporting the pro side of those narratives instead.

            Add in first and fourth amendment issues, and you have a bingo card of things that drive me crazy when people suddenly take the mask off about whenever it suits their ends. I dislike how many issues of basic civil liberty are props to be used for political team sports, when I want to see a reasonable hard line on all of them.

            Rights need to be universal, or they're merely privileges for an in-group, and one day the lack thereof will be used against you.

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              DefinitelyNotAFae
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              I'm sorry, I guess I'm confused about how the amendments are relevant if the government is not the person doing this exposure? Like I can see a genuine first amendment, freedom of the press...

              I'm sorry, I guess I'm confused about how the amendments are relevant if the government is not the person doing this exposure?

              Like I can see a genuine first amendment, freedom of the press argument that there is a public need to know if an elected official who actively works to make homosexuality illegal and societally abhorrent is actually engaged in same sex relationships.

              But this is very much a non-governmental action, here and arguably the sex worker's free speech is as free as Noem's. Especially since she's not granted professional protection, recognition and thus, possibly licensure and ethical rules or privacy laws.

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              1. [4]
                redwall_hp
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                They're not relevant in this case. They're just more things people frequently pretend to care about, but go and throw out whenever it's convenient. I agreed with all of your points, but have more...

                They're not relevant in this case. They're just more things people frequently pretend to care about, but go and throw out whenever it's convenient. I agreed with all of your points, but have more things that bug me frequently in an adjacent space of often-observed hypocrisy.

                Like the bipartisan rush to censor and de-anonymize the internet (based on vague vibes about social media), while we have a fascist government actively trying to censor oppositional speech.

                I think a lot of people ostensibly on the left don't even pretend to not be sex-negative or hostile to sex workers, unfortunately.

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                  DefinitelyNotAFae
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                  Got it! Yeah okay I track. I definitely thought you were referring to the specific case. But yes I agree with you in general.

                  Got it! Yeah okay I track. I definitely thought you were referring to the specific case. But yes I agree with you in general.

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                    redwall_hp
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                    I tend to think about things on a meta level and go off on not-quite-explained tangents instead of talking about specific events. :)

                    I tend to think about things on a meta level and go off on not-quite-explained tangents instead of talking about specific events. :)

                    1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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                      I understand that, I just don't always track when other people are doing it

                      I understand that, I just don't always track when other people are doing it