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Suicide, and the way we talk about it

Last night before bed, I was posting about some books that I really liked. One of them is called Stay: A History of Suicide & The Philosophies Against It. Another person noted that it sounded interesting, and I started to reply to that user. I got about a paragraph in before stepping back and thinking, "this isn't something I should write here," and deleting everything.

This morning, I rolled over and checked my phone. Anthony Bourdain, died by suicide at 61.. This hurts. I loved Bourdain, his work for years was to broaden our cultural awareness and open us up to new worlds. He was, in many ways, a tangible Star Trek. His death will be mourned by thousands, and that he was taken by suicide will be considered by many, many, other people with suicidal thoughts.

Suicide spreads as a contagion - it can be looked on almost epidemiologically. The way that we talk about suicide is... Telling. It's something that we try to avoid talking about, despite us almost all knowing someone who has died by suicide.

I have worked in mental health for several years and in high acuity settings the past year. I work with people experiencing suicidal ideation every single day. It is often my job to talk around what I consider to be a monster that lives in our heads. To try and convince or guide people away from their monster and take the day for themselves. Some of the people I've worked with have ideation only, sometimes they have had as many as two dozen hospital-resulting attempts in their history. This work is stressful, it's draining. It's very meaningful, especially when change or at least the flash of change is present. It hurts, too, when it isn't enough.

A big part of our education attempts is to be able to talk about the monster. It isn't easy for someone experiencing suicidal ideation to talk about it. There are fears that they will be seen as attention seeking - they are! It is a just thing to seek attention when you feel that you're losing the battle. There are fears that they won't be taken seriously - and often they are not. We minimize our problems to bad days or bad weeks or bad years. We say, "Just get over it," and sometimes people simply do not have the capacity to do it by themselves.

We would never, ever, tell someone with a broken arm to get over it without treatment. We would never, ever, tell someone with a bone protruding from their leg that they were just looking for some attention. And yet, this is how we approach mental health.

I have been suicidal myself, somewhere in the haze of depression that clung to me for about five years. Even as I write this, I feel the urge to minimize it and say, "but never to the severity of those I've worked with." Simultaneously minimizing my own experience and serving to stigmatize those that I serve. The monster's power lies in its language. The more we refuse to talk about it, the more we isolate, the more control it has.

I went to counseling for sixteen weeks, and was only minimally invested. It took me another two years after having left counseling to start using the tools. A big part of my own ability to hold on was the book, Stay, because of its humanistic approach to prevention, one that does not rely on religion. An unfortunate thing about working in mental health is that I now understand what it is to plant a seed and not know if it will grow or not.

Anyway, I wanted to write something about this when I saw the news this morning. One of the major themes of Stay is that suicide is theft not just from your friends and family, but from yourself. I have not felt suicidal or depressed for several years, and I can say that this theft would have been true. Except it doesn't include just my friends or family, but the people that I've interacted with and helped with similar thinking styles along the way.

I encourage you, if you think a friend or colleague is struggling, ask the questions. "How are you feeling today?" You never know how this might help. Do you feel like someone you know might be suicidal? Ask the question. Asking someone if they are feeling suicidal is not a significant trigger that may cause them to commit - though this fear often stops us from asking. Consider, they live with the monster every day, how welcome it must be to have someone else recognize it?

I will leave off with Hamlet's Soliloquy. I have never been huge on Shakespeare, lacking time to read. I read this as well in Stay, and now I listen to it frequently. I even had the opportunity to use it in a Group I lead the other day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYZHb2xo0OI

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    CashewGuy
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    So, on "13 Reasons Why" - I'm going to start by saying that I have never seen the show. I think that, in principle, a show that starts with a completed suicide and looking at the aftermath may...

    So, on "13 Reasons Why" - I'm going to start by saying that I have never seen the show. I think that, in principle, a show that starts with a completed suicide and looking at the aftermath may have benefit if executed well. I have no idea how that comes across in the show. My gut feeling, based on the title and what I've heard, is that it's kind of a revenge story? My understanding is that the tapes are basically telling someone, "You're why I did this." I don't know if that's true, but I think that is not a great execution. For one, it strips the person completing of responsibility. No one exists in a vacuum, but the person has to make a choice to act on their ideation. Anything that would make that choice a positive beyond the notion of not existing is something to be wary of. I find it very similar to a lot of suicide-as-revenge fantasies that people I've spoken to have had (and have had myself, to be honest). I know that this show has served as a vehicle for ideation in some teens that I've worked with, but that ideation would be present whether or not this show existed, to begin with.

    Like I said, I haven't seen the show, and it's unlikely that I will. Part of keeping good boundaries with myself is that I do not carry work home with me, and I suspect that would be tough with a show like that.

    I do think that television and film have a role to play in normalizing and sparking conversation. I would be more interested in showing the unintended consequences - the contagion part, certainly, and more. Suicide contagion spreads beyond a person's social network and even to people they have never met. That is an interesting thing that could be explored here. It is kind of a central theme of It's a Wonderful Life.

    Thanks for your kind words! I ask myself that question frequently. I was definitely asking last night when I wrote about feeling fatigued. I am more aware of my limits than I used to be, and asking that question and being realistic is a must if you're working in this field. Another big part of it is keeping good boundaries. I don't think about work when I leave, and I don't work more than I can handle. It is not uncommon for staff to be pressured into working 16 hour shifts. I would not work 16 hours straight in a library, let alone a high acuity psych unit. I feel that these boundaries help me stay on top of things, but taking self-care time is important. I'm actually trying to find some other hobby that is more relaxing and active than what I do for self-care now.

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    1. Petril
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      We watched the show, and it definitely had a running theme of "These high school students played a part in the suicide of their classmate." In fact, she leaves cassette tapes individually...

      We watched the show, and it definitely had a running theme of "These high school students played a part in the suicide of their classmate." In fact, she leaves cassette tapes individually condemning each child. Some of the high-schoolers committed crimes and horrible abuses, but others just misunderstood and ignored her. As far as I can remember, none of them goaded her or used words or actions to push her to suicide. I imagine that the author's intent was "Let's all think about our actions and remember that we could be affecting someone's life forever," but what I saw was "She had a good reason to kill herself and you should suffer for causing her to do it." Which is sad and wrong.

      It sounds like you are very mindful of your boundaries, and that is great! Glad you're doing well.

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  2. Petril
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    Thank you for your post. Suicide-as-contagion is such a scary reality, especially with shows like "13 Reasons Why" out there. My husband and I had a long conversation about the ethics of creating...

    Thank you for your post. Suicide-as-contagion is such a scary reality, especially with shows like "13 Reasons Why" out there.

    My husband and I had a long conversation about the ethics of creating works of art (writing, movies, images) depicting suicide due to their apparent tendency to cause a spike of same-type suicide attempts. He insists that it's never worth it, while I took a more middle-of-the-road line that some people may need to use that art to heal, and it may bring about conversations that help to de-stigmatize mental health. What's your take on this issue?

    Lastly, I want to thank you for your life. I have heard that working in mental health can be as draining and exhausting as it is rewarding; and I know that compassion fatigue is a very real cause of mental health issues and self-harm in the community. Thank you for making a difference. Are you staying on top of it?

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  3. MajorMajorMajorMajor
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    Thank you for your insight. I can't say that I personally know anyone who has attempted or committed suicide, so the effects of it are foreign to me. I have never been subjected to any sort of...

    Thank you for your insight. I can't say that I personally know anyone who has attempted or committed suicide, so the effects of it are foreign to me. I have never been subjected to any sort of education on the subject. In fact, the most exposure I've had to the subject is discussions on the internet following a celebrity suicide, like Anthony Bourdain.

    I'm the person you were initially replying to yesterday, and this post just convinced me to order the book.

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  4. DanBC
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    13 Reasons Why is deeply troubling, and has certainly caused some people to die by suicide. In the UK it was transmitted with links to support before the programme. IMO that's not enough.

    13 Reasons Why is deeply troubling, and has certainly caused some people to die by suicide.

    In the UK it was transmitted with links to support before the programme. IMO that's not enough.