Meh I think for any platform that makes money via ads, its pretty much impossible to assume they'll care about your privacy. On the other hand, convenience is a legit tradeoff. That's why most...
Meh I think for any platform that makes money via ads, its pretty much impossible to assume they'll care about your privacy. On the other hand, convenience is a legit tradeoff. That's why most people are not on decentralized platforms. It doens't have to always be a binary choice. I use both type of platforms, talk to diff people, get interesting perspectives.
But the person deciding to use the service, who chooses that tradeoff, is not the only one involved. Someone who didn't opt in being recorded and photographed, then thrown into the churning AI...
But the person deciding to use the service, who chooses that tradeoff, is not the only one involved. Someone who didn't opt in being recorded and photographed, then thrown into the churning AI fodder, has no agency and no recourse.
I think it's easy to forget that the average individual is unaware of what they're even handing over in exchange for the use of these features. The closest they get to even hearing about privacy...
I think it's easy to forget that the average individual is unaware of what they're even handing over in exchange for the use of these features. The closest they get to even hearing about privacy issues is when Apple make a point of it in their ads and presentations. I feel the average user on Tildes is a bit more technologically minded so for people on here, the trade offs aren't worth it.
I'm not sure people are so naive. For instance, everybody thinks (wrongly) that Instagram and Facebook are constant listening to them to show “relevant” ads. On the other hand, it's really hard to...
I'm not sure people are so naive. For instance, everybody thinks (wrongly) that Instagram and Facebook are constant listening to them to show “relevant” ads.
On the other hand, it's really hard to people to act in light of these discoveries. Habit (addiction?) is such a strong force…
I really wish we took social media addiction a more seriously. I only really used reddit and even with just that, it was a struggle to break my tendency to randomly scroll every free minute....
I really wish we took social media addiction a more seriously. I only really used reddit and even with just that, it was a struggle to break my tendency to randomly scroll every free minute. Killing the API was the shock I needed to quit but I sometimes reflexively scroll to where the old app shortcut was.
Also, all the "child-protection" bans just dance around the fact that nothing magically happens at 18 that makes a person immune to the problems these platforms create.
Advertising isn't just all the companies that want to sell you things. It includes lobbying groups, politicians, foreign governments and surveillance agencies. The things that they do which harm kids mental health are arguably more harmful to adults because they can be driven to actions that affect their spending, voting and the people they may have authority over.
Algorithms are designed to push people to extremes where they are likely to make rash decisions. And you wont know what's on another person's feed because it's all so hyper curated. It results in a weird social situation where everyone gets their own reality bubble and if the real world makes them uncomfortable, just jump back in the feed where everything is exactly the way it should be.
I agree. Focusing on children protection in social media assumes that it's harmless for adults. I oppose a blanket ban, but we need some limits. Here in Brazil (and in Europe, I guess) government...
I agree. Focusing on children protection in social media assumes that it's harmless for adults. I oppose a blanket ban, but we need some limits. Here in Brazil (and in Europe, I guess) government is discussing a ban on infinite scrolling. That's a pretty good action to tackle the worst features of modern social media.
For me and you, yes its not as attractive as giving up ALL your data lol but for most peope who don't know idk, seems like they have not flipped. Now, I do think sometimes the pendulum swings way...
For me and you, yes its not as attractive as giving up ALL your data lol but for most peope who don't know idk, seems like they have not flipped.
Now, I do think sometimes the pendulum swings way too much the other way. A niche set of peopel are really into decentralized services believing that their data is not sold if a few individuals are hosting it. A centralized service doesn't have to sell one's data. I believe Tildes is a good example of that.
not all of us use these "services" and yet we become the product regardless. for example, I was stunned to discover that any shopify-based store by default will send your transaction data over to...
not all of us use these "services" and yet we become the product regardless. for example, I was stunned to discover that any shopify-based store by default will send your transaction data over to meta without your consent to add to a shadow profile they've built on you. we really need government intervention to stop this wholesale theft of our personal information.
Meh I think for any platform that makes money via ads, its pretty much impossible to assume they'll care about your privacy. On the other hand, convenience is a legit tradeoff. That's why most people are not on decentralized platforms. It doens't have to always be a binary choice. I use both type of platforms, talk to diff people, get interesting perspectives.
But the person deciding to use the service, who chooses that tradeoff, is not the only one involved. Someone who didn't opt in being recorded and photographed, then thrown into the churning AI fodder, has no agency and no recourse.
I try that, too. What I found surprising about these new features is that their convenience isn't that attractive for what they ask in return. No?
I think it's easy to forget that the average individual is unaware of what they're even handing over in exchange for the use of these features. The closest they get to even hearing about privacy issues is when Apple make a point of it in their ads and presentations. I feel the average user on Tildes is a bit more technologically minded so for people on here, the trade offs aren't worth it.
I'm not sure people are so naive. For instance, everybody thinks (wrongly) that Instagram and Facebook are constant listening to them to show “relevant” ads.
On the other hand, it's really hard to people to act in light of these discoveries. Habit (addiction?) is such a strong force…
I really wish we took social media addiction a more seriously. I only really used reddit and even with just that, it was a struggle to break my tendency to randomly scroll every free minute. Killing the API was the shock I needed to quit but I sometimes reflexively scroll to where the old app shortcut was.
Also, all the "child-protection" bans just dance around the fact that nothing magically happens at 18 that makes a person immune to the problems these platforms create.
Advertising isn't just all the companies that want to sell you things. It includes lobbying groups, politicians, foreign governments and surveillance agencies. The things that they do which harm kids mental health are arguably more harmful to adults because they can be driven to actions that affect their spending, voting and the people they may have authority over.
Algorithms are designed to push people to extremes where they are likely to make rash decisions. And you wont know what's on another person's feed because it's all so hyper curated. It results in a weird social situation where everyone gets their own reality bubble and if the real world makes them uncomfortable, just jump back in the feed where everything is exactly the way it should be.
I agree. Focusing on children protection in social media assumes that it's harmless for adults. I oppose a blanket ban, but we need some limits. Here in Brazil (and in Europe, I guess) government is discussing a ban on infinite scrolling. That's a pretty good action to tackle the worst features of modern social media.
For me and you, yes its not as attractive as giving up ALL your data lol but for most peope who don't know idk, seems like they have not flipped.
Now, I do think sometimes the pendulum swings way too much the other way. A niche set of peopel are really into decentralized services believing that their data is not sold if a few individuals are hosting it. A centralized service doesn't have to sell one's data. I believe Tildes is a good example of that.
They don't care about you at all. You aren't the customer, you are the product.
You know I think I'm the product of every app on my phone. /s
not all of us use these "services" and yet we become the product regardless. for example, I was stunned to discover that any shopify-based store by default will send your transaction data over to meta without your consent to add to a shadow profile they've built on you. we really need government intervention to stop this wholesale theft of our personal information.